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Strikes over use of foreign workers

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  • gingerdad
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    PROLIANT wrote: »
    No, not in a recession...we need to drive money in to our own economy and provide employment to our own, not some other nation, that is there problem not ours!


    We need to be more competitve in a recession, we want the work, those big overseas contracts. if not they will keep going to the most competitive tender.

    We need to market ourselves and our country and keep the business moving forward.

    How will the workers going on strike at sellafield today benefit when the redevelopment starts there?

    GD
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  • hethmar
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    jane34 wrote: »
    The boy printed vacancies took them to an advisor and was told that he COULD NOT apply for any of the jobs.
    The reason why....they were being kept for Polish workers.
    The poor boy was very upset after being told to try again in a day or so to see if any new vacancies had been posted. How can we expect anyone to get a job in this country if companies only want foreign workers?

    Jane, if that is so, then you should tell your friend to complain to her local MP about discrimination.
  • fedupnow
    fedupnow Posts: 931 Forumite
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PROLIANT viewpost.gif
    This is because our government is weak, where is the iron lady when you need her?

    i was just about to say this ..

    I'm getting a little confused here.

    I'm thinking Proliant thinks the 'iron lady' would ensure the jobs were kept for the Brits........ ???? is that correct?

    At the same time I'm thinking robpw2 is thinking she could outlast any strikers and force them back to work as she did the miners. ????

    Some of those miners were very hungry by the end of it. Communities and even families are split to this day. She was one hard taskmaster - "get on ya bike...." :rolleyes:
  • fedupnow
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jane34 viewpost.gif
    The boy printed vacancies took them to an advisor and was told that he COULD NOT apply for any of the jobs.
    The reason why....they were being kept for Polish workers.
    The poor boy was very upset after being told to try again in a day or so to see if any new vacancies had been posted. How can we expect anyone to get a job in this country if companies only want foreign workers?


    Jane, if that is so, then you should tell your friend to complain to her local MP about discrimination.

    I agree with this one........ surely illegal.
  • I'd just like to add that when the new £200 million plant at the giant Lindsey Oil Refinery at North Killingholme, North Lincolnshire was applying for planning permission - usually winning on the prospect of local jobs. I bet they didn't say the jobs would not be for locals?

    The EU has nothing to offer this previously great country - we should leave it immediately - we'd still have foreign workers here - we have always welcomed decent people and good workers.

    Just my opinion - but I shall not apologise for it.
  • hethmar
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    PROLIANT wrote: »
    I was approached by a distressed Danish gentleman last night in Newcastle city centre, he was clearly upset and on his own, he told me he worked for a gypsy who has ripped him off and not payed him his wage and left him stranded in Newcastle, he asked for a coin so he could call his mother back in Amsterdam so I gave him a quid.
    This should not be allowed to happen, more so in the UK and Europe.

    Oh dear Pro, very kind of you, but I think you may find said man did that about 50 times that day. Its very common in London and also Amsterdam to get people approaching you with this sort of story. Next time tell them to go to the police who will arrange a phone call and contact their embassy for them.
  • PROLIANT
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    hethmar wrote: »
    Oh dear Pro, very kind of you, but I think you may find said man did that about 50 times that day. Its very common in London and also Amsterdam to get people approaching you with this sort of story. Next time tell them to go to the police who will arrange a phone call and contact their embassy for them.
    I am like that though, I can't help wondering I might just be helping soomebody out. :o
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  • fedupnow wrote: »
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jane34 viewpost.gif
    The boy printed vacancies took them to an advisor and was told that he COULD NOT apply for any of the jobs.
    The reason why....they were being kept for Polish workers.
    The poor boy was very upset after being told to try again in a day or so to see if any new vacancies had been posted. How can we expect anyone to get a job in this country if companies only want foreign workers?

    Jane, if that is so, then you should tell your friend to complain to her local MP about discrimination.

    I agree with this one........ surely illegal.

    anyone see
    Newsnight, Friday 6 February
    Hazel Blears Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government even said her self
    that 2 chaps came up to her and told her that they applied for work but where turn away as they only wanted polish workers
    and when interviewing people where the suppose jobs where to be created they said family's have just moved, no work except for foreign people from other country's.

    as Bob Crow of the RMT union said
    it needs to be stopped,
    either paying the wage of the country that they come over to
    making the employers pay the same wage as other workers in this country and see how many will want to work here and stop employers employing cheap labour

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/7878747.stm
  • Ah, more xenophobic nonsense.

    It's clearly illegal under EU law to only employ Polish workers - so I very much doubt that the Jobcentre in the UK would be advertising jobs that were 'only for Polish workers'. It might even have been racism on the part of the advisor, with the advisor telling the person not to apply for the jobs because they were only suitable for Poles - as a way of degrading the Polish race.

    Of course, I like the way that it's 'the local newspaper' and no source is actually provided. The Daily Mail would be all over such a story like a bad rash - so that pretty much confirms that it's complete nonsense.

    For the record, I'd welcome any British citizen to apply for a job with me if they could speak fluent Polish and English. I'd even consider English-only speakers if they really had something to offer.
    From Poland...with love.

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    sitting on the floor.
    Their
    books are lying on the floor.
    The books are sitting just there on the floor.
  • still going on :-(
    if they are getting away with this at a time of recession, what chance do our children have in the future?

    in todays news
    Unemployed construction workers have staged a demonstration at a power station to demand fair access to jobs as the row over the use of foreign labour continued.
    over claims that 1,000 jobs will go to overseas rather than to UK workers.
    demonstrators claimed skilled workers were being denied the chance to apply for work.
    They claimed Alstom's Polish sub-contractors, Remak and ZRE, are refusing to consider applications from UK labourers for the estimated 450 jobs available over the course of the project.
    We know that there is now currently approximately 600 application forms with Alstom waiting to be vetted and passed on to the sub-contractors, but, to date, we have seen no evidence of any of these people being employed.
    "The two Polish sub-contractors are continuing to bring their own people in from Poland, where I understand they are advertising for workers."
    He added: "Feelings are still pretty high. A lot of these people are unemployed and would like work. I think feelings are starting to turn to frustration now rather than the good-hearted spirits they had at the last meeting."
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