My industry has become regulated-will jobcentre pay?

jobsearcher48

Help-this is my first post.

I have not worked for a few years.Suddenly and unexpectedly find i need to go back to work.I am not entitled to benefit,but they may pay my contributions if i sign on.

I want to go back to work in security,but since I left,the industry has become regulated and I have to take an expensive course (security officer) about £250? then apply for am sia licence.About £250.I haven't got this.
My circumstances aren't something i want to post on here.At my jobcentre interview the adviser said that you are supposed to be in receipt of benefits to get on the course free,but the skills adviser has some discretion.

I went to the jc today and they kindly fixed me up to see an adviser,but when i got there,they said i shouldn't have been given the appointment,and another general adviser said i couldn't get it free.

I repeated what the interviewer said at my initial appointment ,that the adviser could have some discretion,she said the rules had changed and she wasn't sure.

I understand the course is one the jcentres are offering to get people back to work.

CAn anyone advise me what to say when i see the adviser tommorrow?:(

LittleVoice

If you are not receiving JSA then you must have other income or capital. You could use some of that to fund the course.

mvengemvenge

The rules for the ADF fund are very strict, as it's government money. As far as I know, you have to have been signing for 6 months (with no breaks) to get ADF. I don't think just getting credits affects this.

However, if the jobcentre could send you on a course with one of their providers on which you could get an SIA licence for 'free', that may preclude them from using ADF for your course.

Basically, ADF is not designed for funding courses, it is to give people an extra leg-up into getting into a job (ie clothing for interviews, tools to get you going in a job, etc).

jobsearcher48

LittleVoice wrote: »

If you are not receiving JSA then you must have other income or capital. You could use some of that to fund the course.

Must I?..........................

jobsearcher48

mvengemvenge wrote: »

The rules for the ADF fund are very strict, as it's government money. As far as I know, you have to have been signing for 6 months (with no breaks) to get ADF. I don't think just getting credits affects this.

However, if the jobcentre could send you on a course with one of their providers on which you could get an SIA licence for 'free', that may preclude them from using ADF for your course.

Basically, ADF is not designed for funding courses, it is to give people an extra leg-up into getting into a job (ie clothing for interviews, tools to get you going in a job, etc).

Thanks,I have now been theoretically accepted to be funded for a course.Had to push it a bit,but they rang upand confirmed I am eligible.THanks again

jobsearcher48

LittleVoice wrote: »

If you are not receiving JSA then you must have other income or capital. You could use some of that to fund the course.

Do you by any chance work for the jobcentre?

LittleVoice

jobsearcher48 wrote: »

Do you by any chance work for the jobcentre?

No I don't. But those are the rules, aren't they?

If you have access to signficant capital/income you don't receive income-based JSA. So the converse is that if you don't receive income-based JSA (and you said you don't qualify for benefits), you have capital/other income.

You also said you had not worked for some years - so you wouldn't be entitled to contribution-based JSA.

jobsearcher48

The assumption that you have "access" to income is notional,and I don't have capital.
I am just a few months short of the time period for being able to claim.

Everyones individual circumstances are different,and don't always fit into a box.

Anyway,i have been accepted for the course, and I would urge anyone else who is turned away and told they can't receive help to double check,or even triple check.There are new things being introduced,and you have to push to find out the finer points of procedure.

Voyager2002

LittleVoice wrote: »

No I don't. But those are the rules, aren't they?

If you have access to signficant capital/income you don't receive income-based JSA. So the converse is that if you don't receive income-based JSA (and you said you don't qualify for benefits), you have capital/other income.

You also said you had not worked for some years - so you wouldn't be entitled to contribution-based JSA.

A reasonable rule of thumb, but there are plenty of exceptions: many people's lives don't fit into the neat categories devised by the bureaucrats.

It may well be that the OP is in fact entitled to some kind of benefit, but that was not the question posed.