Hours of work

surreysaver

cheshirekitty wrote: »

Surely the NHS cannot be breaking the law?

The NHS do not give a **** about the law.

LittleVoice

surreysaver wrote: »

Local agreements cannot give you less rights than the law.

Agreed - but the law may allow local agreements - as it does on averaging over more than 17 weeks.

surreysaver

LittleVoice wrote: »

Agreed - but the law may allow local agreements - as it does on averaging over more than 17 weeks.

But not less than 11 hours off between shifts.

LittleVoice

surreysaver wrote: »

But not less than 11 hours off between shifts.

I quoted that figure in my original post. I don't see evidence that local agreements can affect that but didn't read the whole of the Regulations to check. If others have and confirm that it is not possible to have a binding local agreement I do accept it.

Of course, it is an entitlement (and therefore a right) but it is not illegal for less time to occur between days of work as long as employers do not force someone to take less time.

ceridwen

LittleVoice wrote: »

I quoted that figure in my original post. I don't see evidence that local agreements can affect that but didn't read the whole of the Regulations to check. If others have and confirm that it is not possible to have a binding local agreement I do accept it.

Of course, it is an entitlement (and therefore a right) but it is not illegal for less time to occur between days of work as long as employers do not force someone to take less time.

I have often noticed that there is pressure to conveniently "forget" about legal requirements. The pressure doesnt so much seem to come from the employer themselves - but from the staff getting scared that if they insist on their legal rights then they might be first for the "chop". I can sympathise with staff who worry about this - I can only say that my personal experience is that I always insist on the law being abided by as regards my pay/conditions - and I havent had any loss of income yet because of it.

It does help that I dont care if I lose my job - so I am totally confident about pointing out what the law says - as it doesnt matter to me if they dont like it - I know what the law says if I end up "the other side of the door" as well:D and they know I do.

One shouldnt have to be this way - but I've been on the receiving end of some pretty bad treatment by them - hence why I simply dont care any more about what they think when I insist on my legal rights.