Child Maintenance (CSA) questions (merged)

Beverley

dottyanne wrote:

Can I clarify this anyone -as OH ex is disagreeing with the facts.

Eldest is 17 in August - goes to college to do A levels - another year to do so she can get CSA for her until september NEXT year when Child benefit shoudl stop as she will have finished A Levels and be going to uni (although she will still be 18 - not 19 ) does this make anu difference or will he still have to pay through CSA UNTIL she is 19???

Is your daughter just doing AS levels? Or is she doing the full AS levels plus A2s over 2 years? Or fast tracking 2 years worth in one year? The only reason I ask is that she seems to be leaving A levels very quickly.

You are entitled to child benefit for her during the time she is aged between 16 and 19 AND is in full time non-advanced eduction (ie doing A levels) - maintenance payments run over the same time period - ie maintenance ends when she leaves full time non-advanced education or becomes 19, whichever comes first.[/QUOTE]

I double checked only last week - my ex had told me that he was stopping maintenance for my eldest (18 in august) when she turns 18 so I double checked with CSA - he's got a shock coming.

Next one 16 in June - leaving school to do apprenticeship - so if this happens his child benefit will stop in September THIS year - so will the CSA stop then too?

Is an apprentiship counted as full time non-advanced education? If it is, then child benefit and maintenance are still payable until he is 19 or leaves the apprenticeship - whichever comes first.

Hope this helps

Beverley

dottyanne

Is your daughter just doing AS levels? Or is she doing the full AS levels plus A2s over 2 years? Or fast tracking 2 years worth in one year? The only reason I ask is that she seems to be leaving A levels very quickly.

You are entitled to child benefit for her during the time she is aged between 16 and 19 AND is in full time non-advanced eduction (ie doing A levels) - maintenance payments run over the same time period - ie maintenance ends when she leaves full time non-advanced education or becomes 19, whichever comes first.[/quote]


She is doing full A levels - just about to finish her first year - she's got another year after this but will still be 18 when shes completed them - thus i assume that in september 07 her Child Benefit will stop as she will have completed her A Levels and her birthday is in the August. Therefore CSA to be paid for her until Sept 07??

I dont think apprenticeship is counted as further education - any advice on this anyone??

dottyanne

Just a quick question - if my step-son does an apprenticeship when he leaves school this year (he's 16 in June) - when will his Child Benefit stop - this September or is an apprenticeship classed as 'further education' and thereby his Child Benefit and CSA continue until he is 19??

Any ideas please?

calleyw

dottyanne wrote:

I dont think apprenticeship is counted as further education - any advice on this anyone??

I thought apprenticeships counted as work. As you are being paid to do a job. Even though it is a not a lot. Something about £40 a week. And you will getting a qualification at the end. So it half and half.

I think you need to talk direct to the CSA. I know what a joy that is. As that is the only way to know for sure.

As my stepchildren are either still at school or went to college. So we had no inbetween.

Yours


Calley

calleyw

dottyanne wrote:

Just a quick question - if my step-son does an apprenticeship when he leaves school this year (he's 16 in June) - when will his Child Benefit stop - this September or is an apprenticeship classed as 'further education' and thereby his Child Benefit and CSA continue until he is 19??

Any ideas please?

Looking here http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/taxcredits/questionsaboutchildren.htm#training

It seems that modern apprenticeships are not classed at approved training.

So from that it seems to me that both CB and CSA will stop in september.

As with a modern appernticeship it seems they have an contract of employment.

But you might want to double check with both CSA and CB people.


Yours


Calley

dottyanne

Thanks for that - seems the CSA are a law unto themselves - and I for one have NEVER dealt with any organisation that is so unorganised in my life - on 3 occastions we have sent them stuff - recorded delivery and suess what ? No trace of them - I just want to get my facts right on all counts.

The sooner we are shut of having to deal with these incompetents the better!!:mad:

ellie14

Hi folks, Has anyone else come across a problem like mine,my ex partner earns around £150 k plus a year as a g p plus extra work duties,He has never paid any money towards the maintanence of our daughter.The c s a seem unable to collect from him or are reluctant to do so due to his high profile job.The c s a seem to think hes earning about £100 per week I ask you, and say they got this assesment from his accountant,His life style belies this but still nothing from the csa or him .Also he hasnt seen his daughter for 13yrs shes 14 now and he has never shown any interest in her although he lives close by with his family.All I ask is how can this be that I get nothing and he doesnt have to pay anything because of his job.The csa are a waste of space to let this happen.

crazyscientist

Hi Ellie

I know my mum had exactly the same problems when me and my brother were minors. Unfortunatly, some "fathers" and their employers are happy to tell complete lies to the CSA about income and the CSA are unwilling or unable to chase things up. If you are sure the accountant is breaking the law by lying then maybe you could report him to his proffessional body??

Might be best to go to citizens advice bereau too.
Its an absolute discrace that these people can get away with it but i don't have much useful advice as i know my mum never saw a penny. All i would say is keep nagging the CSA - if you dont phone them regulary your case slips to the bottom of the pile. As a GP is pretty obvious he's lying about income and so keep complaining to CSA managers and higher up and you might find someone whos sympathetic.

good luck

nicola1982_2

ellie14 wrote:

Hi folks, Has anyone else come across a problem like mine,my ex partner earns around £150 k plus a year as a g p plus extra work duties,He has never paid any money towards the maintanence of our daughter.The c s a seem unable to collect from him or are reluctant to do so due to his high profile job.The c s a seem to think hes earning about £100 per week I ask you, and say they got this assesment from his accountant,His life style belies this but still nothing from the csa or him .Also he hasnt seen his daughter for 13yrs shes 14 now and he has never shown any interest in her although he lives close by with his family.All I ask is how can this be that I get nothing and he doesnt have to pay anything because of his job.The csa are a waste of space to let this happen.

I'm assuming you aren't on benefits? The CSA will only bother to question amounts if the payments are going back into the benefits system. My partner's ex was on benefits and they constantly made a generous assessment of his monthly income, doing things like assessing his gross income rather than net, including one off overtime as his monthly income and failing to acknowledge that he had part custody - of course it didn't make a blind bit of difference to the child as it was taken out of her benefits anyway. Unfortunately they don't seem to care about getting the money to the child - just replenishing the budget.

iluvfreebies

due to the vast amount of cases /payments needing collected by the agency and lack of staff to complete debt collection action. Its generally those who shout loudest get action taken - Not right but the way it is.
speaking from knowledge cases where the parent with care is on benefit are rarely actively persued for payments as private cases are given priority - from the caseworkers view whos case would you pass for enforcement action first one where the client is on benefit and will never contact you or the private client who is on the phone every day giving you an earache???