part time contract but being made to work extra hours

welnik

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mymatebob

Overtime does not count towards holiday entitlement.

If full time staff work 40 hours per week and get 20 days leave you work 20 days and get 10 days leave (This is just an example not exact figures)
If you then do five hours overtime you do not beome entitled to any extra holidays (as I understand it)


You will I assume have been paid the extra money for working the extra hours?

welnik

mymatebob wrote: »

Overtime does not count towards holiday entitlement.

If full time staff work 40 hours per week and get 20 days leave you work 20 days and get 10 days leave (This is just an example not exact figures)
If you then do five hours overtime you do not beome entitled to any extra holidays (as I understand it)


You will I assume have been paid the extra money for working the extra hours?

Yes, I have been paid overtime for the extra hours. thanks for your reply.

LittleVoice

If you are consistently doing the extra hours (or at least some of them are every week) then it would be worth asking to have your contract amended to the minimum that you do actually work each week.

It may really be that the hours needed were not properly appreciated at the beginning but now they should be able to see that the extra hours are required.

If they changed your contracted hours you would receive the extra holiday.

However, if they are fully aware of what they are doing and refuse then, in today's climate, I agree it might be difficult to force their hand.

An alternative would be to pay you an extra 10% on your hourly rate as some compensation. Always worth asking.

welnik

There were 2 full timers and myself part time doing 20 hours. I did say at the interview that I was flexible and could do extra hours if I was given notice, but now it's become a bit of a nightmare. I need to work to pay the bills and it does not financially benefit me to do overtime as I pay out slightly more than I pick up in childcare!

Thanks for your reply.

LittleVoice

welnik wrote: »

There were 2 full timers and myself part time doing 20 hours. I did say at the interview that I was flexible and could do extra hours if I was given notice, but now it's become a bit of a nightmare. I need to work to pay the bills and it does not financially benefit me to do overtime as I pay out slightly more than I pick up in childcare!

Thanks for your reply.

Whilst I would normally say that employers shouldn't look at the expenses someone has - eg thinking they should pay someone more because they have children rather than being single or because they have a car which uses more petrol than someone else's - I think it is unreasonable for them to expect you to work above your contracted hours for what is, in reality, negative pay. You must learn to say "no" because you can't afford to do it.

Savvy_Sue

If you really are happy to do the extra hours provided you are given sufficient notice, another suggestion would be to ask for a meeting and spell this out. "You employed me to work 20 hours, from x time to y time. If you would like me to work additional hours, I need to be told at least 1 / 2 / 3 days beforehand. If you do this, I will be able to concentrate fully on my work. If you ask me at 2.30 pm to stay until 5 pm, then you can expect me to spend at least 1/2 hour on the phone arranging emergency childcare, and I will be able to work better if I am not worried about imposing on friends / family."

Also if you can see a way of predicting when the overtime is needed, make suggestions for how this could be organised. For example if one task is time critical but another could be left until the next day, say "rather than staying late, I could concentrate on getting packages out from midday, and leave orders received later than that until the next day." Or whatever's relevant to your job.

Personally I wouldn't over emphasise that you have to leave at a particular time because you have a child - it doesn't matter why you have to leave then, the fact is you have commitments outside work and you accepted a part-time job finishing at a suitable time to fit with them. It could be a dog who couldn't be left too long, an aged relative, a hot date with the milkman: fact is you have to leave.