Council Jobs to Go -10% Staff Saving Needed

username2003

Several people have now said very eloquently what I was too angry too properly express.

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scousethife

That bird who was in charge of that baby P thing was sacked and her sucessor is getting 200 grand aparently.

What in the name of satans @rsehole is that all about?

RobertoMoir

scousethife wrote: »

That bird who was in charge of that baby P thing was sacked and her sucessor is getting 200 grand aparently.

What in the name of satans @rsehole is that all about?

You think a suitably qualified person would touch that job with a 10 foot bargepole now, without a very large paypacket to tempt them, after the likes of the "super soar-away sun wot won it" have made the job radioactive? I'd personally rather drink paint than take that job even at this new salary.

macaque_2

beingjdc wrote: »

Rubbish. The Director of Children's Services in Haringey is in charge of a gross annual revenue budget of £400m, and a substantial capital budget, quite apart from the level of responsibility for, you know, life or death decisions. Find me someone in the private sector who controls a budget of half a billion pounds and is paid £35k.

The director of Children's services in Haringey was trusted with a budget £400m. This is what the government said about the quality of the management of that department.

"Speaking in the House of Commons, Mr Balls said he had been 'deeply disturbed' by the failings of practice and management, highlighted in the case review."

In other words a group of failed managers in Haringey had been happily buring their way through half a billiion pounds a year and people were leaving them to it. With such poor quality management can it be any wonder that their budget has become so large.

Labour bribed the public sector with huge piles of cash over 10 years and got nothing back for it. Can it be any surprise that public sector bashing is rife when people look at the waste, extravagence, incompetance and naked self interest eviden in the public sector. People are right to complain.

olly300

Can it be any surprise that banking bashing is rife when people look at the waste, extravagence, incompetance and naked self interest eviden in the banking sector. People are right to complain.


Sorry couldn't resist.

treliac

macaque wrote: »

The director of Children's services in Haringey was trusted with a budget £400m. This is what the government said about the quality of the management of that department.

"Speaking in the House of Commons, Mr Balls said he had been 'deeply disturbed' by the failings of practice and management, highlighted in the case review."

In other words a group of failed managers in Haringey had been happily buring their way through half a billiion pounds a year and people were leaving them to it. With such poor quality management can it be any wonder that their budget has become so large.

Labour bribed the public sector with huge piles of cash over 10 years and got nothing back for it. Can it be any surprise that public sector bashing is rife when people look at the waste, extravagence, incompetance and naked self interest eviden in the public sector. People are right to complain.

You throw out all this nonsense without any evidence to back your rhetoric. It's just pub talk.

And, as for Mr Balls, he hadn't a real clue how to respond .... Oh, we'd better call for another enquiry.

That's you and me - we're all going to pay for the overhaul of social work (yet again :think: ). So it looks as if the govt is doing something.

Well, let's see if it stops people murdering their children.

seven-day-weekend

beingjdc wrote: »

The average local government pensioner currently receives a pension of approximately £80 a week.
Bless.

I will receive my Local Government Pension in 2014 (no longer working); on today's figures it is about £40 a week.

Not the 'huge' 'unfunded' mount that people think we have.

In fact, by the time I add my State Pension and LG Pension together, I am only slightly better off than those who have paid nothing in and have to rely on Pension Credits.

neverdespairgirl

Lotus-eater wrote: »

Slightly OT, but along the same lines.

What is happening to those councils and Police forces that had money in Icesave? Haven't heard anything about it for a while and tried searching on Google and couldn't find an answer.

Not looking great.

The BBC said today:

A council which had £5m invested in a failed Icelandic bank says it may have to write off some of the money.

Stoke-on-Trent City Council had invested the money in Landsbanki, which was nationalised by the Icelandic government in October.

The council said it had been instructed by the government to wait a year before seeking to get the money back.

Liberal Democrat councillor Keiran Clarke said provision had been made for a shortfall in next year's budget.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/staffordshire/7781347.stm

treliac

I should think most authorities accept the money's gone.

As I said before, it's not good, but it's not terminal.

Poppy9

Jobs are cut on the QT in my LA. Someone leaves and they delay replacing them until in the end it's just accepted that the job is lost or they realise that the post has to be filled. It's become so tight in our office that when they tried to cut another vacant post no one had spare capacity at all to pick up any of the work so it didn't get done. Staff already taking work home with them or coming in weekends (for no pay) so the limit had been reached.

Regarding pensions. I can only speak for the Local Govt. Pension scheme but the average pension received by public sector workers is £3,800 a year. Women, who are 3/4 quarters of the scheme members - get just £1,600.
3-4% of council tax goes on the LGPS, but if it didn't fund members pensions, we would have to pay higher taxes for benefits and state pensions for members. The recent cuts to the LGPS cost the Government £2 billion in higher state benefits and state pensions.

Another gripe of public sector - sickness.

Figures are weighted by the fact that a lot of the public sector jobs involve risks. Police officers, nurses, firemen/women, refuse collectors, residental home staff etc. get injured on duty. For office bound staff the sickness rate average is about 2 days per annum (again though this can be distorted by 1 person in the office on long term sick). A work colleague thinks she has the record in our LA for not going sick once in 35 years. Personally I've had 2 days in the last 12 months but OH beats me as he's had 0 in 2 years.

OH Police officer. On the plus side he does get paid OT - various rates from NT, T+1/3,, T+1/2 or DT depending on reason, notice given etc.

On the minus side he can be forced to stay on duty after doing a 12 hour shift. His shift pattern can be changed at short notice. He can have his rest days cancelled at short (or long notice) - rest days are like people's weekends, except he doesn't work mon-fri. He also doesn't get a lunch hour or break time. He has to eat when he can and leave his food if he gets a call. It's the norm for him not to eat or drink anything all shift depending on which station he's working at and he hands over 11% of his pay for his pension.

Many LA staff based in schools are already on part year contract i.e. school clerks, cooks, cleaners who only get paid for 40 weeks per year.

Finally: Why is it that when LA contract services out to the private sector that the service is usually worse, complaints rise and the savings that were supposed to have been achieved by outsourcing never materialise?