Fantastic comment piece from the Times on the giveaway to mortgage holders

lostinrates

I thanked the above posts because they are thought provoking, but they don't sit comfortably with me.

Why? well I don't really want anyone convicted of crime rpresenting me...but then, wher is my threshold, speeding tickets?

I think this returns to my point though: in many senses she is representational of a sector of society, but one wonders what her skill in sympathising with the rest of her constituants would be, again, it might happn to be good (I can't accept it for th obvious reason though).

DirectDebacle

lostinrates wrote: »

I thanked the above posts because they are thought provoking, but they don't sit comfortably with me.

Why? well I don't really want anyone convicted of crime rpresenting me...but then, wher is my threshold, speeding tickets?

I think this returns to my point though: in many senses she is representational of a sector of society, but one wonders what her skill in sympathising with the rest of her constituants would be, again, it might happn to be good (I can't accept it for th obvious reason though).

Yes but not representational of society as a whole. Which was my point about women in Parliament. 50% of us are women and they do bring a certain je ne sais quoi to debates. Often very measured and sensible views. I wondered if there were a much stronger female input on major decisions how the vote on going to war with Iraq might have turned out.

RobertoMoir

DirectDebacle wrote: »

Yes but not representational of society as a whole. Which was my point about women in Parliament. 50% of us are women and they do bring a certain je ne sais quoi to debates. Often very measured and sensible views. I wondered if there were a much stronger female input on major decisions how the vote on going to war with Iraq might have turned out.

Probably a bit like the decision to go to war over the Falklands?

DirectDebacle

RobertoMoir wrote: »

Probably a bit like the decision to go to war over the Falklands?

Remind me as to which piece of British territory the Iraquis invaded.

catriona79

mean_momma wrote: »

Well now you don't need to be born into the educated classes to become 'informed'. The motivated just have to go down to the library and gain instant info via the Internet. 'Dr Copperfield' from the Times magazine has written various funny articles about what appear to be working class patients coming into the surgery with huge print outs from Google. Whether they can then put up an argument for better treatment remains to be seen!

Mean momma, don't mean to drag this out forever, as this discussion is not really about the healthcare system, but it is the middle classes that mostly come in with newspaper cuttings and internet printouts. This is just from my own observation.

As for your quote about being better informed, the key word in that sentence which you quoted is about being better able to get to the information they want (in terms of ability - which education increases manyfold, i.e. searches of Google scholar for recent studies - just one example).

Hope I have clarified that.

And as for the comment made above by the pharmacist working in a working class area - yes, you are right that working class men are most in need of services. But they are the last to actually go and see their GPs too and arrive in surgeries in advanced stages of illnesses.

RobertoMoir

DirectDebacle wrote: »

Remind me as to which piece of British territory the Iraquis invaded.

Never said that they did.