Transfer to "Career Transition Centre"

applehead_3

Hi

My employer is moving numbers of people from there current job roles into a "Career Transition Centre"
They are then expected to spend their time looking for jobs within the company, where as in reality there are no jobs.
It seems to me that this is a cynical way of beating the redundancy procedures/payoffs, as people are getting fed up with nothing to do all day and then leaving with no recompense.

Is it an employees right to request, when told that their job role is no longer required, redundancy or another similar job offer, and not accept the CTC ?

Thanks

SomeBozo

The rules are

The employer can offer the employee other work instead of making them redundant. The employee has a choice whether to accept it or not. Though if the employee unreasonably refuses the offer the employer may avoid paying them redundancy pay.


An employer can legitimately dismiss an employee if he or she will not accept a change in terms and conditions resulting from a reorganisation if the employer can show such changes are necessary to the continued management and efficiency of the business, and the employee's refusal to "fit in" justifies the dismissal.

So I feel you need to go through the process of looking for and applying for jobs.

Bozo

Incisor

applehead wrote: »

... My employer is moving numbers of people from there current job roles into a "Career Transition Centre"
They are then expected to spend their time looking for jobs within the company, where as in reality there are no jobs.
It seems to me that this is a cynical way of beating the redundancy procedures/payoffs, as people are getting fed up with nothing to do all day and then leaving with no recompense.

Your analysis is probably substantially correct.

Is it an employees right to request, when told that their job role is no longer required, redundancy or another similar job offer, and not accept the CTC ?

As long as certain fundamentals of your contract are upheld [eg pay, hours, location], the employee probably has no grounds to force anything.

The method is ineffective against employees who go in everyday, with a smile on their face and set out to enjoy the process. Any who are noticeably working within the environment to raise morale and keep everyone positively engaged and enjoying the situation will probably be noticed quite quickly and will be singled out for special attention. With any luck, the use of this technique means that the company want to achieve a result without a huge fuss and that they will be prepared to provide a positive incentive to move on.

applehead_3

Many Thanks for the information

So I feel you need to go through the process of looking for and applying for jobs.

I haven't been affected (yet). Just trying to help some friends who have, and its always best to be prepared !!

An employer can legitimately dismiss an employee if he or she will not accept a change in terms and conditions resulting from a reorganisation if the employer can show such changes are necessary to the continued management and efficiency of the business, and the employee's refusal to "fit in" justifies the dismissal.

Yes but this is not just a change to t &c's, or even a reorganisation, this is a complete "you have no role, no work"

Any who are noticeably working within the environment to raise morale and keep everyone positively engaged and enjoying the situation will probably be noticed quite quickly and will be singled out for special attention.

Most are at home with no central location to visit

Seems to me that both rules kindly listed by SomeBozo are not relevant here, ie no work has been offered, and no reorganisation has taken place. Its purely "we do not need x number of people doing this job now"

Incisor

applehead wrote: »

Any who are noticeably working within the environment to raise morale and keep everyone positively engaged and enjoying the situation will probably be noticed quite quickly and will be singled out for special attention.

Most are at home with no central location to visit

Then they should find a central location and meet regularly and invite employees who are continuing without this scheme. Just for social support and encouragement?

ceridwen

Errr....dont exactly think they will want the employees having "social support and encouragement";) . The aim is indeed clearly to drive those employees into getting so fed-up that they resign - rather than wait for redundancy payoffs. If the firm involved is using this tactic on them - then those payoffs must be pretty generous ones - and therefore worth hanging on in there and waiting for.

So - it looks to me like they work from home anyway??? In which case - that helps "pass the time" whilst they are waiting for the firm to give in and hand over the (redundancy) money. They have got to just grit their teeth, go through the farce of "applying for (non-existent) jobs" within the firm and wait it out till the firm DOES give in and hand over those payoffs. It will be easier for them with their working from home scenario - as once they have done what little they can to be seen to apply for those non-existent jobs - then they can just go out and about and get on with their lives.

If they are confined to an office whilst waiting for the firm to give in and make them redundant it will be harder to pass the time - but they will just have to take in stuff to read and could possibly use this as an opportunity to further any personal course of study they wish to do.

That really IS the only way to deal with employers pursuing this tactic - just fit in what they can that they want to do personally and wait...and wait.....but at some point the employer will have no option but to start writing cheques out.

Good luck.