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IFA fined 1.1m for annuity/drawdown/transfers misselling

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  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 119,776 Forumite
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    The response does state that the person asking the question doesnt state what pension they are in. It also says they should seek advice.

    It mentions the generics but doesnt explicitly say anything about the various retirement options. It doesnt say he should do annuity purchase or unsecured pension. There is only so much you can say in a short, edited response and compliance requirements typically mean you end up sticking to generic responses and dont go into any real detail. Especially with high risk options.
    Always assuming he was not charged a massive fee by the IFA to arrange the drawdown of course - this is a very simple DIY procedure and can be done for very low cost.

    Or a low fee which is cheaper than many DIY options. Of course, its simple to do but its also the wrong thing to do for many people. Its very easy for someone without any knowledge to do the transaction and end up in a more expensive plan with lower benefits than what they already had with no way to reverse that decision. This is one of the main reasons that the FSA class it as a high risk transaction.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • EdInvestor wrote: »
    I don't know.Anyone who thinks you can take decisions about annuities vs income drawdown AFTER taking a lump sum rather than before, doesn't understand how the system works.

    Exactly!

    So is the "massive" IFA fee for the ADVICE ( as it would appear advice is always required at retirement, as its such a complicated area and possibly a once in lifetime decision) or is it for the IMPLIMENTATION which (as you rightly point out) can be straightforward and cheap once the right decision has been made?
  • EdInvestor
    EdInvestor Posts: 15,749 Forumite
    whiteflag wrote: »
    So is the "massive" IFA fee for the ADVICE ( as it would appear advice is always required at retirement, as its such a complicated area and possibly a once in lifetime decision) or is it for the IMPLIMENTATION which (as you rightly point out) can be straightforward and cheap once the right decision has been made?


    You would hope it was the former.But here's an IFA writing in the public prints and completely missing a key option.

    Doesn't give you much confidence in the quality of the advice, does it?
    Trying to keep it simple...;)
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 119,776 Forumite
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    re's an IFA writing in the public prints and completely missing a key option.

    He isnt listing any specific option. Just product generics.
    Doesn't give you much confidence in the quality of the advice, does it?

    He isnt giving advice. He makes that clear in the article.

    Anyone relying on a short media snippet for advice is a fool.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • EdInvestor
    EdInvestor Posts: 15,749 Forumite
    dunstonh wrote: »
    Anyone relying on a short media snippet for advice is a fool.

    You're right, as far as outlining options and providing info is concerned, we would do better on this forum. :)
    Trying to keep it simple...;)
  • whiteflag_3
    whiteflag_3 Posts: 1,395 Forumite
    EdInvestor wrote: »
    You would hope it was the former.But here's an IFA writing in the public prints and completely missing a key option.

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    No he doesnt- your just being pedantic

    The only ADVICE he gives is get advice - a point you seem willing to ignore
    You're right, as far as outlining options and providing info is concerned, we would do better on this forum

    Agreed ! so perhaps better not to post links to such articles.
  • Lokolo
    Lokolo Posts: 20,861 Forumite
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    whiteflag wrote: »
    Agreed ! so perhaps better not to post links to such articles.

    To be fair I think its only you dunston and ed who are reading this thread :p
  • purch
    purch Posts: 9,865 Forumite
    Anyone relying on a short media snippet for advice is a fool

    I guess you havn't been on the House Prices forum recently....:eek:

    That's all they rely on over there !!!!!! :rotfl:
    'In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences.'
  • whiteflag_3
    whiteflag_3 Posts: 1,395 Forumite
    Lokolo wrote: »
    To be fair I think its only you dunston and ed who are reading this thread :p

    yep, but it keeps me off the streets.:p
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