CSA - 2nd wife confused and worried. Help!!

Orchid

windym wrote:

If you do send your payslips they will take your income into consideration as 'household income'

windym - this is exactly what I thought. yes we will send in his P45 but right now I don't think I will be sending in my payslips.

wigginsmum wrote:

I can suggest is phone the CSA and ask why they need them, if it's not clear from the paperwork

wigginsmum - our situation seems different as we have a mortgage / not renting. To be honest, I don't want to call them as the financial support of the kids is nothing to do with me as my hubby has and will continue to support his little ones when he is working.

Pam17 wrote:

I think though that the reason for the request for May payslips is probably to check his income and whether the assessment in place at that time was correct. ...I think normally this type of review is prompted by contact by either of the parents.

Pam17 - thank you so much for explaining the history and differences between the two schemes. I suspect that his Ex has been in touch with CSA. My hubby will get in touch with his P45 (I guess we just did not know how quickly he would have found another job). Should we still send in his May wageslip as well?

honey28 wrote:

they should only ask you for your wage slips if you have a child together?

honey28 - if you could check I would be grateful. But no children...as yet !

black-saturn wrote:

I would also like to say that the ex wife may not be as bad as your partner makes out.

black-saturn - I really wish this was true but I have seen the original catalogue bills, they are all in her sole name, with dates and sent to his address after she walked out. My hubby has kept all documentation just in case the kids ask questions when they are adults.

pandas66 wrote:

She had to prove her income to the csa as he went umemployed soon after they moved in together and did so to help.

pandas66 - Obviously your Ex's loss became your gain (a good friend) and that is sweet what she did. To be honest, that is how it should be. In an ideal world everyone are friends. I have and continue to work very hard to make sure my hubby remains debt free cos when I first met him, things were not pretty (my savings have totally disappeared and now I have to live frugal). This means when he is working, he is able to support his kids (as required by CSA) as well as give them treats/gifts etc as he or them see fit or want. I really don't see why I have to give my wageslip to CSA.


I guess some my think I am being mean but I honestly do not see the financial support of my hubby's children as my responsibility.

pandas66

I absolutly thought it was ridiculous to see what each others partners earnt. They used the he's unemployed bit to gain access to her salary.
She and I never spoke till 3 weeks after he had left (while she was out shopping and in secret). I phoned her as I knew she would have been drip fed wrong information.
Incidently she had the house in her name and that was safe but they 'bought a holiday' home in Portugal while together and he wanted half that, whilst unemployed!

Orchid

pandas66 wrote:

They used the he's unemployed bit to gain access to her salary.

pandas66 - That's interesting to know and sounds like sneaky behaviour from the CSA

Ps. Your Ex sounds like an "interesting" character

pandas66

Orchid wrote:

pandas66 - That's interesting to know and sounds like sneaky behaviour from the CSA

Ps. Your Ex sounds like an "interesting" character

er yes, he's now living over seas
and hasn't managed to gain a green card, and so hasn't got a job/income again

Spendless

Can someone tell me what happens if the ex husband stops working and is supported by his new wife who has a very high income. I fear that one day this situation will happen to a friend of mine. Her ex-husband is very resentful of the maintainance he pays, and this isn't just heresay from my friend. He's said things to me before about it. His new wife earns a lot and could afford to support them all.New wife has a child from her 1st marriage but no children together. One day I think friends ex will pack in his job/get fired/take redundancy to avoid paying maintainance.

LoLo

I think that if you don't give your wage details the csa assume you can contribute to half of the household bills etc. I think this is what I was told when they wanted my details, although I also think that what I earn should not come into it. I also agree that I should not have to support my partners children from his previous relationship especially when the money clearly does not get spent on them.

Jummy

My situation with the CSA is this.....
I live with my partner and our son.
He has a child with an ex partner.
The CSA recently got in touch after the ex decided she might get more money than he was already paying her.
They based their decision on my partners wages and MY Child Tax Credits.
I receive extra Tax Credits as my son is disabled and we have worked out that the ex now gets 9.00 a week of money that is supposedly for my son.
They also sent the ex a complete breakdown of our earnings which we were not happy about.

Becles

I have a friend who is getting married next year. He has a child from a previous relationship that he pays maintenance for. The mother left him when pregnant with their child, and the child has been told the other man is their father. My friend never fought for access at the time as he couldn't afford the legal costs. Now he thinks too much time has passed and it would be really cruel for the child to find out through courts that "Dad" isn't Dad after all.

My friend is getting married and he will become stepDad to his new wife's children. She has been on her own for a long time, and has her own house with equity in it, which he is moving into. She is keeping the house etc., in her name only, but he will pay her board money to cover household expenses. He'd rather do that as he knows she came through a messy divorce where she had to really fight to keep her home and he doesn't want her to think he is only after her money. Also he thinks it is only right that eventually her house will pass to her children, and he doesn't want anyone from his family to have a claim on it.

My friend thought that his maintenance payments would reduce as he'll have extra dependants when he becomes step-Dad to her children. Does this ruling mean that he'll now have to tell the CSA about his new wife's income and her housing details, and her circumstances will be taken into account? I know the woman too and she'll go crackers if this is the case!

Sensemaya

An NRPP does not have to supply their income details.This will result in an Cat B MA,but does not generally alter the assessment figure.

Never deal with a case officer.Always ask to be put through to a CRO-Complaints Resolution Officer.Take their name and direct phone number and thereon only deal with them.

Always ask for everything to be put in writing then you have a record.

Do a google on NACSA.This organisation can help everyone with CSA problems.

Child Support Analysis is also a useful site too.

It is worth genning up on the legislation,compliants procedure and so forth because the CSA is a bureaucratic nightmare.

I have been to the Parliamentary Ombudsman twice and had the pleasure of dealing with this crowd for over 10 years.

calleyw

Sensemaya wrote:

An NRPP does not have to supply their income details.This will result in an Cat B MA,but does not generally alter the assessment figure.

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The above is correct you do NOT have to supply your income details. They try and frighten you by saying that NRP will pay more. Because they need your income to give a protected family income.

That is the biggest load of rubbish. If you do not want to give your details then don't.

Everytime I see a brown envelope with DWP on the back because they are not allow to say it's the CSA my heart sinks as it is just more stress and heartache.

Wish you all the best.

Yours

Calley