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Darling will spend his way out of recession

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  • clobber_2
    clobber_2 Posts: 472 Forumite
    How very Keynesian.
  • hethmar
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    Lilac, your teacher was probably talking about the USA - it wasnt just holes in roads, they completed huge building projects like dams, whole new towns and road systems.

    Darling and Brown and looking at bringing forward large scale regeneration projects in a similar way.
  • Generali
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    lilac_lady wrote: »
    I remember my History teacher at school talking about the 1929 depression. He said that if the Governments of the day had paid people to dig holes in the roads then had paid others to fill them in the problem would have been solved. Was he correct?

    We have a different problem to 1929. In 1929 there was plenty of supply of goods and services but not enough demand for it. This time around, thanks to the bubbles we've had in various assets, we are producing the wrong stuff.

    That's why Keynsian demand management of that sort won't work this time around.
  • baby_boomer
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    16 economists have combined to condemn Darling's "plan" as too risky.

    ".....could boost the state to such a "dominant position" that it would "stunt the private sector's recovery once recession is past". They argue that taxes should be cut and interest rates varied to cope with economic downturns, rather than spending being ramped up.."

    Telegraph
  • wymondham
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    16 economists have combined to condemn Darling's "plan" as too risky.

    16 economists v Alistair Darling..... mmmmmm which is right? :confused:
  • baby_boomer
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    Telegraph - Brown's Keynesianism will bankrupt us all

    "...anyone who tells you inflation isn’t a problem is ignoring that borrowing itself is inflationary, and that the latest bank bail-outs will see the Bank of England printing money on a scale unprecedented in modern times. This is the first serious slowdown under Labour – since 1976 – and a moment of acute economic danger. A wounded, desperate Prime Minister is making a final roll of the dice.

    Faced with a desperate electorate, he is reaching for Keynesianism. It serves, also, as a fig-leaf for his previous profligate spending and as a bone to the Labour left..."

    No wonder that Brown now feels capable of going back to his native Scotland to campaign in Glenrothes,, instead of staying away as an electoral liability!
  • wymondham wrote: »
    16 economists v Alistair Darling..... mmmmmm which is right? :confused:

    I wouldnt trust either of them to be honest.

    Did these 16 economist predict this situation last year?
    Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. The one where you showed us Dithering Dad is a complete liar. If you’re not sure why please read the forum rules or email the forum team if you’re still unsure - MSE Forum Team
  • baby_boomer
    baby_boomer Posts: 3,883 Forumite
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    No-one has the gift of certainty but

    It's not an economist's job to predict or regulate the financial markets which caused this crisis as opposed to assessing the real economy to which the crisis has now moved.

    It was the government's job to regulate the financial markets, but we can't cry over spilled milk. We are where we are.
  • olly300
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    Generali wrote: »
    We have a different problem to 1929. In 1929 there was plenty of supply of goods and services but not enough demand for it. This time around, thanks to the bubbles we've had in various assets, we are producing the wrong stuff.

    That's why Keynsian demand management of that sort won't work this time around.

    It should be noted in China and India workers are being sacked because the demand from the West has been greatly reduced.
    I'm not cynical I'm realistic :p

    (If a link I give opens pop ups I won't know I don't use windows)
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    olly300 wrote: »
    It should be noted in China and India workers are being sacked because the demand from the West has been greatly reduced.

    So the Indian and Chinese Governments should consider demand management.

    I still have my doubts TBH.
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