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House sales hit new 30-year low (again)

RICS' latest - another 30 year low, like last month and the one before that.

The slump in the property market is becoming even worse, according to a survey from the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (Rics).
Estate agents sold less than one property per week each in September.
The number of properties being sold across the UK was the lowest since the Rics survey started in 1978 and was 52% lower than in September last year.
London was the region with fewest sales per estate agent, at an average of just eight in the previous three months.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7668017.stm
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  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 26,512 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    They've made pots of money during the last 10 years. Surely, they must have a bit put aside for a rainy day?
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    Certainly nothing selling round here.

    I think it's a battle of will between the 2 local EA's in my village as to which one will close down first - I'd be happy to see them both go, as have had dealings with both, and found them both as greedy and unprofessional as each other.
  • ad9898_3
    ad9898_3 Posts: 3,858 Forumite
    GDB2222 wrote: »
    They've made pots of money during the last 10 years. Surely, they must have a bit put aside for a rainy day?

    :rotfl:I know you're takin the p*ss, I reckon they have probably put away about as much as our great leader, none.
  • adr0ck
    adr0ck Posts: 2,374 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    some quotes:

    The main trend is for vendors to place
    their property into the rental market to
    derive an income to cover their mortgage
    and allow them to move.


    Bad news day in – day out!

    The overall picture is probably not any
    worse than it was last month, but remains
    grim. New instructions are up on last
    month and the majority of our ‘new
    vendors’ are looking to buy, so there is still
    potential for sales if all parties are sensible
    in their expectations.


    The market remains dire. Many would
    be sellers are now turning ‘to let’. This
    market is also becoming more
    congested


    The market is in the doldrums. Altering
    the stamp duty threshold has had no
    effect.


    The market remains virtually
    paralysed.
  • adr0ck
    adr0ck Posts: 2,374 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    another good one

    The market for sales is not depressed…..it is
    suicidal! Until mortgages are being
    granted, the market will remain in a
    straight jacket. We need to lend to mend!
  • ad9898_3
    ad9898_3 Posts: 3,858 Forumite
    It staggers me really, they must know the reason that things aren't moving, prices are too high, a very small child could tell you this They seem to think that if they wish hard enough things will go back to 2007.

    Want to get the market moving, drop your prices, it is painful but not rocket science. Face up to it, 2007 as gone, its not going to return for possibly decades, get over it.

    Example my friend bought a really nice 3 bed detached in 2000, corner plot, double garage, not a new build nasty, nice gardens, bigger than average. He paid 88k, now there is a similar one up for sale for 265k !!!, needless to say its been up for over a year with no interest. That 265k means nothing, they might as well have it on for 500k, its simply not worth it. I would say with inflation its perhaps realisticly worth about 125k and not a penny more.
  • paulherts
    paulherts Posts: 697 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Combo Breaker
    Area Exeter
    Detached £391,000
    Semi £211,000
    Terraced £204,000
    Flat £144,000
    Overall £211,000


    Average wages around £20,000. Exeter is not unique property prices are too high built on unsustainable lending.

    Fundamentals are all wrong, the Government should not be propping up a system built on sand.

    If crazy lending parctices return (and they should not) then it will lead to another banking crash in the medium term. If lenders adopt responsible lending criteria then housing market will continue to become more realistic.
  • ad9898_3
    ad9898_3 Posts: 3,858 Forumite
    paulherts wrote: »
    Area Exeter
    Detached £391,000
    Semi £211,000
    Terraced £204,000
    Flat £144,000
    Overall £211,000


    Average wages around £20,000. Exeter is not unique property prices are too high built on unsustainable lending.

    Fundamentals are all wrong, the Government should not be propping up a system built on sand.

    If crazy lending parctices return (and they should not) then it will lead to another banking crash in the medium term. If lenders adopt responsible lending criteria then housing market will continue to become more realistic.

    So the average house in your area is over 10x salary, doh, I can see that the EA's may have small problem here, may I suggest that ... erm.. prices are too high by the small amount of over 100%, oh dear, the word dumb for these people must be the best compliment you could give them
  • Kez100
    Kez100 Posts: 2,236 Forumite
    A quick drop will see people buying but they need to drop enough. If sellers/new build only dropped asking price it would help. Otherwise it will be a long drawn out affair waiting for repossessions and desparate sellers to do the job required.

    There were plenty of savvy FTBs sat out there waiting last week and now, I believe, all new FBs know the score.....sit wait and build a deposit. There has to be some sort of void while we move from old principles onto new.
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