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It's grim oop north
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Now come on. If you're going to spout this populist bull bashing (ed. shurely ball?) nonsense we need the usual details. Postcode, links, full details of your bank accounts including security codes, mothers maiden name, inside leg measurement, and a scanned copy of your birth certificate.What!!!!!!
This very afternoon Im off to see new builds in a wealthy commuter town in the S East that are 50% down.0 -
NBFs were over priced to begin with. It is not that they halved in value it is now they are actually selling for what they are realistically worth! Only a half wit would have thought a 2 bed shoe box in a dump like the centre of Newcastle would be worth 190k. You can buy 4 bed detached houses for less than that in much nicer locations. 90k for a city centre 2 bed flat that will probably rent for 500 pcm is more realistic. With only BTL investors buying then prices will return to a level that works with rents. Over priced stuff won't sell unless a normal buyer happens along and falls in love with the place. Everything else is considered an investment. If the rent doesn't cover the mortgage to the required level on whatever mortgage is available then it just won't shift. Once the price is dropped to be in that zone then stuff is disappearing quite quickly.
Latest auctions are showing quite a lot of the lower end is selling now. There are bargains to be had and banks seem to be throwing out the 'best price' for repos out of the window. If it goes into auction a second time then it will go for whatever anyone will pay, pretty much regardless of how little they offer. Development land with PP to build flats isn't selling. Land with PP to build single houses is still selling as long as it isn't over priced.0 -
Turnbull2000 wrote: »When I think very-expensive-apartments-that-become-half-price-sh*thole, I always think The Bar, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
OH has the pleasure of doing a 3 day case in Newcastle next week. Maybe he should buy a flat?...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
What's the average earned household wage for FTBs (presumably the sort of people that a 2 bed flat would be aimed at) in Newcastle excluding benefits and tax credits? £190k has to be pretty toppy for them I would think.
I think the median is somwhere in the region of £22,000, and suspect most of these flats are empty BTLs. I often run up multi-storey car parks throughout the city centre, and there's one in particular where the entire top floor is reserved for residents of The Bar. I've only ever seen one car parked up there.Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why please read the forum rules or email the forum team if you’re still unsure - MSE ForumTeam0 -
He can buy cash if you slip a couple of quid in his hand for lunch instead of giving him a packup.neverdespairgirl wrote: »OH has the pleasure of doing a 3 day case in Newcastle next week. Maybe he should buy a flat?0 -
Not really on topic but this really proves how grim it is up north
http://www.totshirts.co.uk/igun2/index.php 0 -
PasturesNew wrote: »He can buy cash if you slip a couple of quid in his hand for lunch instead of giving him a packup.
Doh! He's so boring, staying in a hotel instead....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
NBFs were over priced to begin with. It is not that they halved in value it is now they are actually selling for what they are realistically worth! Only a half wit would have thought a 2 bed shoe box in a dump like the centre of Newcastle would be worth 190k. You can buy 4 bed detached houses for less than that in much nicer locations. 90k for a city centre 2 bed flat that will probably rent for 500 pcm is more realistic. With only BTL investors buying then prices will return to a level that works with rents. Over priced stuff won't sell unless a normal buyer happens along and falls in love with the place. Everything else is considered an investment. If the rent doesn't cover the mortgage to the required level on whatever mortgage is available then it just won't shift. Once the price is dropped to be in that zone then stuff is disappearing quite quickly.
Latest auctions are showing quite a lot of the lower end is selling now. There are bargains to be had and banks seem to be throwing out the 'best price' for repos out of the window. If it goes into auction a second time then it will go for whatever anyone will pay, pretty much regardless of how little they offer. Development land with PP to build flats isn't selling. Land with PP to build single houses is still selling as long as it isn't over priced.
Newcastle is a very beautiful city actually NOT A DUMP!!!0 -
Turnbull2000 wrote: »I think the median is somwhere in the region of £22,000, and suspect most of these flats are empty BTLs. I often run up multi-storey car parks throughout the city centre, and there's one in particular where the entire top floor is reserved for residents of The Bar. I've only ever seen one car parked up there.
Median will probably be less, especiall amongst first time buyers. A lot of people on minimum wage, lots on about 13-17,000 in call centres etc.0
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