Lehmans

neverdespairgirl

PN, have you tried soda bread?

Debt_Free_Chick

I'm thinking of getting breadmaker. What's the Panasonic like? I'm not convinced by the five trillion posts on the OS board singing it's praises as I suspect all the posters over there are really one person who works for Panasonic. That's simply "insider trading" and should be banned.

What do you think?

lostinrates

Pastures, have you tried making cholla bread? If you don't mind the shape not being traditional you can probably do it start to finish in the bread maker.

Generali

Debt_Free_Chick wrote: »

I'm thinking of getting breadmaker. What's the Panasonic like? I'm not convinced by the five trillion posts on the OS board singing it's praises as I suspect all the posters over there are really one person who works for Panasonic. That's simply "insider trading" and should be banned.

What do you think?

I've got a Panasonic. It's very good although as a part of the international Zionist conspiracy and a puppet of the shadowy One World Government it refuses to make bread on a Saturday.

GDB2222

Generali wrote: »

I've got a Panasonic. It's very good although as a part of the international Zionist conspiracy and a puppet of the shadowy One World Government it refuses to make bread on a Saturday.

Your attempt to bring this thread back to the previous tangent has been noted.

lostinrates

We have a breadmaker...can't think what make, it was an unneeded gift. TBH, I can't work it and make bread by hand when I need it. I prefer fresh yeast to packet when hand making. I quite enjoy the therapy of kneading, though I admit the bread maker does do standard white loaves lighter than I can usually get mine.

I'm about to have another crack at sourdough. Anyone have a good recipe and how long can I keep the starter with out using it?

sabretoothtigger

edwinac_2

Apparently, the Sunday edition of the German newspaper, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, carried the photo below in its coverage of the banking collapse.

The F***ers Are Starting To Jump

I was struck by the photo's pertinence to this thread.

And in particular, its pertinence to Generali, the forum poster, and his fellow London bankers, many of whom are showing signs of severe mental distress as their crimes unravel.

Today, we learned the sad news that one London bankster chose to follow the critics' advice.

Kirk Stephenson, a 47 year old private equity banker with Olivant Advisers, threw himself under the wheels of the 05.35 express train from Plymouth to Paddington. Our thoughts are with those whose journeys were delayed.

The mental health of bankers is of paramount importance. It is crucial they remain fit enough to stand trial for their crimes.

And for that reason, I thought it wise to draw this story to the attention of the forum's resident psychiatrist, poppy10.

Perhaps poppy can have a few quiet words with Generali to ensure he isn't harboring any thoughts of harming himself or others...

The very last thing we need is a massacre in our midst.

As others have helpfully observed, "There are, of course, saner ways to deal with the crisis..."

sabretoothtigger

Nah some actions will make things worse. Tax the banks on this by all means but dont do nothing or kick them when down.
Please dont criticise indivuals on the forum if they've been good enough to give you some personal insight to their business

A better video
http://www.bloomberg.com/avp/avp.htm?N=av&T=Shays%20Expects%20Passage%20of%20Rescue%20Plan%20on%20Thursday&clipSRC=mms://media2.bloomberg.com/cache/viEpLNx8E0Xk.asf

Check out the details of the b&b debt being paid for eventually by the banks, much better idea

edwinac_2

sabretoothtigger wrote: »

Check out the details of the b&b debt being paid for eventually by the banks, much better idea

The video doesn't play beyond a few seconds. Is there a transcript?

I can imagine it doesn't even start to address the scale of the problem. The huge derivatives bubble must be burst before anything else. Nobody sane wants to preserve that.

The train wreck from that speculative casino-gambling needs to be excised from the essential functions of the commercial banks. Only those banking functions required to keep the physical economy alive should be preserved.

Those traditional banking functions are deposit-taking and responsible lending.

Derivative speculation doesn't even figure in any sane thinking.

Once that separation of speculative investment banking from traditional commercial banking is complete, only then can the banking system be brought back into shape.

As for the B&B, in the great scheme of things, it was a piddling bank, with liabilities of a mere £50bn.

Look at the enormity of the problems across the board! How do you propose the rest of the banks could dig themselves out? Not in a thousand years.

For example, the Fortis bank which collapsed yesterday, has liabilities that are three times the GDP of Belgium!

The derivatives mania has led to a banking bubble that is in the quadrillions of dollars. Those nominal paper values are meaningless and should be consigned to the dustbin.

The 1933 Glass-Steagall Act needs resurrecting. It is the only solution.

To put it bluntly, the system is too f&cked for tinkering. The whole system needs to be taken into state control, and put through bankruptcy reorganisation.

And that includes the bankruptcy of the privately-owned Federal Reserve.

Both the Fed and the BofE need to be returned to proper state control, as the US Constitution explicitly dictates in the case of the Fed.

"Only Congress shall have the Power to coin Money and regulate the Value thereof"

To the Jackals of Jekyll Island - the fascist private bankers who created the monster of the Federal Reserve - we must say "be gone, you thieving scum!"