We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

Debate House Prices


In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non MoneySaving matters are no longer permitted. This includes wider debates about general house prices, the economy and politics. As a result, we have taken the decision to keep this board permanently closed, but it remains viewable for users who may find some useful information in it. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

The ultimate doom and gloom scenario.

2

Comments

  • ray123
    ray123 Posts: 659 Forumite
    Read Lord of the Flies. That will help to answer your questions...
  • ray123
    ray123 Posts: 659 Forumite
    Even better, watch a documentary called zeitgeist (it is available on google).
    It discusses v interesting issues, such as how this world is controlled by a false economy!
  • tomstickland
    tomstickland Posts: 19,538 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Any recommendations for an initial economic text book? I'd want one that looks at the fundamentals, possibly undergraduate level, or maybe general pop science type thing.

    What about this?
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Economics-Basics-Routledge-Paperback/dp/0415314127/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1220830184&sr=1-2
    Happy chappy
  • globalds
    globalds Posts: 9,431 Forumite
    The book I offered Would be of interest to you ,especially since you mentioned the role of games theory in the understanding of economic activity .
    The author takes it slightly further than the model you proposed by permitting wealth to be transferred across generations .
    We seem to be in interesting days as far as economics is concerned something akin to quantum and physics .
  • tomstickland
    tomstickland Posts: 19,538 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Yes, it sounds good. However, I don't want to be reading a book challenging conventional thinking before I know what conventional thinking is. Unless I can do both at the same time.
    Happy chappy
  • mizzbiz
    mizzbiz Posts: 1,434 Forumite
    The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith is a MUST read for anyone wanting to understand the development of the current economy from the Industrial Revolution and the forces of the free market. It covers what would happen in the events you describe, namely, that the economy itself adjusts naturally and better without government intervention.
    The suggestion of Globalds is spot on too.
    I'll have some cheese please, bob.
  • I don't, other than pondering how an economic system works and what the limits of it are before it goes unstable, or has any other mathematical states.

    I think that, to some extent, the modern economy is so very complicated that no-one really knows how it does work.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • globalds
    globalds Posts: 9,431 Forumite
    I think that, to some extent, the modern economy is so very complicated that no-one really knows how it does work.

    It is the ability to jump up to the next level that allows a system to be understood .
    So that trying to analyse every molecule moving around in a hurricane would be an impossible task ..to be able to create a rule at another level may allow these individual actions to be calculated using a common equation thus enabling an understanding of the process of a Hurricane rather than all those individual actions .
  • turbobob
    turbobob Posts: 1,500 Forumite
    I suppose if you really wanted to look at a doom and gloom scenario watch the film "Threads". Particularly the aftermath of the attacks. I guess this shows what could happen if the economy completely collapsed (in the film it was due to nuclear attacks destroying all infrastructure and wiping out the cities). You're looking at a breakdown of all modern notions of an economy and basically returning to the dark ages. In this scenario there would be no "government" to help you. It would be a return to a primitive way of life.
  • Pobby
    Pobby Posts: 5,438 Forumite
    My choice is "Empire of Debt" by Bill Bonner. It compares modern America to the rise and fall of Rome.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.3K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.3K Spending & Discounts
  • 247K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 603.6K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.3K Life & Family
  • 261.2K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.