products for teenage acne

melancholly

on the subject of face touching (which i do more than most because i can feel the little evil things developing!), someone did recommend wearing a hairband in bed as that prevents long hair touching your face and making ti more greasy. i've tried 3/4 bands, but i can't find one that stays on all night (maybe i just move around more than most!). i'm guessing that washing pillows regularly also helps in the same way.

i think the most important thing is that people have found things that have worked for them and that has made a huge difference to their lives. i don't see why it matters what choice they've made - they have to live with their decisions and everyone seems very happy with that apart from one poster!

for me, dianette made things much better and there are a lot of side effects of that, particularly when you're young. but it also has other benefits - no more 10 day periods and the like! it's harder for boys as the pill isn't an option. some foods make mine worse, but no amount of exclusions have helped - i've even seen a kinesiologist to try an 'alternative' approach! i can see that acne badly affects people on my dad's side of the family, who live in all parts of the world (from the far east through to europe), on different diets. i'm not as bad as my dad's cousin, but i'm sure that genetics is a big factor in my family (i hope i pass my mum's 'good skin' genes on!)

glowgirl_2

I can highly recommend Freederm products, I have oily skin which still gets regular spots (I am 40) and use a thin layer of freederm gel every night and I have never had such clear skin since I was about 10. My daughter who is 13 has just started getting oily teenage skin she had started to get a few spots so I started her cleansing with Freederm lotion every am and pm and using nivea young oil free moisturiser in the mornings only, she now has clear oil free skin and she wears make up every day with no adverse effect. Diet plays a large part in both of our skins, if my daughter dosnt eat fruit every day her skin gets considerably worse and if I pig out on chocolate you can tell over the next few days by my skin.

Ted_Hutchinson

Atomised wrote: »

Why do you doubt a previously mentioned medical practitioner who didn't get the results that he hoped?

Simply because I know that D3 the effective form of Vitamin D is NOT available for prescription in the UK. I accept it is possible that the doctor your refer to went to the trouble of importing D3 and supplied it directly to his patients, I am aware of a couple of UK doctors who do just that, but they are the exception and not typical of most doctors. If the doctor you refer to did indeed not only correct Vitamin D3 status by giving his patients around 5000iu/daily and then test 25(OH)D status to ensure each had attained 125nmol/l TOGETHER WITH with optimising Omega 3 status with at least 1.5g EPA+ DHA AND improving magnesium status he would have improved the natural anti inflammatory status and together with the change of diet that lowers glycemic load and thus reduces excess hormone levels this should have shown some improvement.

The fact he reported that diet changes did not show the improvement he expected leads me to conclude he probably failed to improve the natural anti inflammatory status at the same time as reducing pro inflammatory inputs.

My guess is he simply looked at diet without considering that early man (and those cultures that are acne free) live outdoors, eat organic foods, and eat mostly fresh uncooked foods If you catch your fish/game from the wild it will have a higher omega 3 content. Magnesium is water soluble so cooking greens allows the magnesium to dissolve and be washed away in the cooking liquor. So if you want to replicate the natural situation of early man you have to supplement with all 3 at effective levels. D3 Omega 3 and Magnesium as well as changing to a low carb diet.

If you know any UK doctor who actually does this then please PM me if you don't want to post his name online. I would be very pleased to hear that such a sensible doctor exists.

I am about to buy a book called Bad Science.

I'm glad about that and confident that you will find absolutely nothing in it that doubts any of the science you will find in the links I provide.

Too many miracle cures and scientific evidence charts are cited by people who don't know what they are talking about nowadays.

Exactly my point and one made over and over again by Taubes in his book The diet delusion. we really do have to ensure that the medical dogma churned out by official medical information services is evidence based and represents the latest scientific findings.

Currently official information on D3, Omega 3, Magnesium, together with the official reluctance to accept that a low carb diet is not only healthy but the one our bodies evolved to work best on, makes most "official" medical advice laughable. I'd be thoroughly ashamed if I worked for the health service and had to spout the out of date rubbish most of them churn out as if it were gospel.

Got Acne Go Sunbathing

Here is the science paper relating to the above press release. for those who find these papers difficult the key sentence IMO is this vitamin D3 signaling is important to microbial recognition and the antimicrobial response during injury. Activated vitamin D3 generated in the healing process initiates an antimicrobial response and increased sensitivity to microbial challenge.

This is why I am so convinced that you MUST have sufficient D3 in your skin to provide the signal that stimulates your own immune response. How can you expect your body to respond to challenge if you deprive it of the means to signal up the defence mechanisms.

Ted_Hutchinson

Atomised wrote: »

I recently read that it is a myth that direct sunlight makes acne better.

But what matters is the scientific evidence and whether or not there is a good logical reason for the observations you are recording.
If we know that acne is a condition that involves inflammation is it not simply common sense to ensure our NATURAL ANTI INFLAMMATORY status is attained and maintained. That is what using an effective amount of D3, omega 3 and magnesium will do. Reducing the refined carbs will reduce the pro inflammatory cytokines.

If we know that oral antibiotics help acne isn't is simply common sense to suggest that the levels of the NATURAL ANTIBIOTIC our bodies strive to attain and maintain given full body exposure to sunshine are those that will best enable our body to fight infection?

We know perfectly well what level of D3 enables breast milk to flow replete with Vitamin D,
We know the level at which the bodies daily needs are met in full and at which level surplus D3 begins to be stored for winter use.
We just have to apply that knowledge to see the result.

You seem to mention vitamin D a lot in your posts as cures. Are you a scientist or a doctor?

Absolutely not. I have a chronic inflammatory condition and it was getting progressively worse and there was nothing that could be done about it. Being disabled , in constant pain and unable to stand or walk for long was driving me crazy and I needed to find out what could possibly be done to prevent further deterioration. Understanding that inflammation was causing the pain and the damage to nerves gave the insight to search for information on natural anti inflammatories. I started with Omega 3 and was known as the omega 3 man for a long time but that alone did not make a huge difference. Another poster here put me onto Vitamin D and that made a huge difference, and I think the fact that the average UK adult has at best only half the natural amount of D3 is the cause of most of our chronic health conditions. I've recently learnt more about magnesium but it was low carbing via Gary Taubes. that has made the biggest difference to my health. Understanding that fat cells are actually pro inflammatory and reducing their number/size has made a huge difference to my pain levels and mobility problems. Just wish I'd been a bit smarter a lot earlier.

I think there is a genetic link to acne too.My mother had it when she was

younger although my elder sister has never suffered from it.

Maybe true but because you have a genetic predisposition does not necessarily mean you will develop that condition. There are some risk factors you can do something about and some you can't. The answer is to reduce those risk factors that you can. So reducing the pro inflammatory agents, increasing the anti inflammatory agents is common sense.

When you understand D3 is a NATURAL ANTIBIOTIC then it makes sense to maximise the natural level of this antibiotic.

Use of Vitamin D in clinical practice is a good place to start.

melancholly

it's odd - Ted, you make a lot of posts about returning to the diet of early man (when life expectancy was much shorter so it can't all have been good), but one HUGE aspect of that early lifestyle was far more physical activity.... i find it very bizarre that you actively push for a diet from that era and yet also campain against people taking exercise. i can't quite understand the contradiction.

fwiw Atomised, Ted is neither a doctor or a scientist and NO advice on any part of MSE should be taken as medical advice - things are always specific to individuals and it is very dangerous for the site for medical advice to be offered.

Ted_Hutchinson

melancholly wrote: »

it's odd - Ted, you make a lot of posts about returning to the diet of early man (when life expectancy was much shorter so it can't all have been good)

Have a read about what HERODOTUS Reported was common knowledge in the fifth century BC?

yet also campain against people taking exercise. i can't quite understand the contradiction

That is because you never read my posts properly. You always allow your own prejudice to bias your understanding of what I actually write. Find me one post where I have suggested that exercise is bad for you.
You won't because I always say that exercise is good for the brain and good for your heart. What exercise will not do in the long run is to help you lose weight. The reasons for this are explained by Taubes Here We can't work it out
We all know exercise helps you lose weight. But does it? There is almost no scientific evidence to support the orthodoxy. Indeed, it could even do the exact opposite... Gary Taubes weighs up the facts and takes a controversial look at why the gym is not going to fix it

for medical advice to be offered.

But it is most important that the latest scientific findings are made known to the public so they are kept informed as to the current state of scientific knowledge. Providing INFORMATION on which people can make informed decisions helps them better understand the issues underlying their health problems.

We must NOT let people whose mission in life appears to be to cause as much pain and suffering as possible demand informative threads are deleted. Providing people can see the actual research from which the INFORMATION (as distinct from ADVICE) that I supply is coming from they can make their own minds up about whether or not that information is relevant to their condition.

misscomickat

It was a complete myth for me that sunlight improves acne. Nothing nothing NOTHING improved mine until I got Roaccutane. Then it came back a bit, but not as bad as before. Then I went on Dianette, and my skin cleared up. I came off the pill not long ago, and my skin is getting bad again.

If you have fully blown acne, not just the odd spot, it is hormonal and no amount of creams will make a difference.

Neon_Eye

I will tell my brother about these. His having an acne problem for a long time. Hope this helps.

Ted_Hutchinson

misscomickat wrote: »

It was a complete myth for me that sunlight improves acne.

This is how much full body sun exposure you require. BBC 5 DAY FORECAST enables you to find the UV index for your postcode You have also to understand that it takes TIME to raise status. It is far better to spend a short time over a long period getting regular sun exposure than to spend a few days under tropical sunlight trying to do the same. Although your skin makes lots of D3 very quickly it needs time to absorb it. Very strong sunlight simply processes the D3 on into substances the body doesn't use and therefore is of no value and you risk getting burnt.

So several short full body sessions around midday regularly 3-4 times a week totalling the time shown on the calculator from April to the end of September are required. Is that really what you did?

but as I hope I have made clear there are several other natural anti inflammatory agents that those lliving/eating in the way our bodies evolved to function with would have available. So correcting OMEGA 3 status AND magnesium status AND eating a low carb diet so ALL these anti inflammatory actions are applied at the SAME TIME is the main thrust of my post. Call it the kitchen sink approach Use ALL the natural means possible AT THE SAME TIME and you stand a far better chance of success. If this approach is more successful for dealing with LP(a) it is logical it will have the same impact on acne.

it is hormonal and no amount of creams will make a difference.

How can you expect to correct hormonal imbalance if you keep eating those foods that raise excess hormonal activity?

How can you expect your body to make the correct hormones in the correct amounts if you deprive them of one of the main hormone regulating mechanisms?

Analysis of vitamin D and biochemical endocrine PCOS features revealed a significant correlation only between 25-OH-VD and sex hormone-binding globulin as well as the free androgen index. In conclusion, in PCOS women, low 25-OH-VD levels are associated with obesity and insulin resistance

Ted_Hutchinson

Atomised wrote: »

It might be a natural antibiotic but sometimes humans need extra help to fight infections.

But the need for EXTRA antibiotic should only occur AFTER bodies have attained OPTIMAL vitamin D status. The average UK adult has at best only half the amount of D3 that is natural and most of the time we have only one third of the correct amount. If you drive your car with only one third of the correct tyre/fluid levels you get worse performance. If you want better performance, but for muscle, brain and immune function you need to correct current insufficiency states.


I don't believe that exercise has no effect on weight loss. Surely the more you move, the more calories you will burn up?Well if increasing exercise is so effective where are the studies that show doubling the amount of exercise leads to long term substantial weight loss?


Why are you so quick to believe the latest scientific findings? What if they are wrong?I am not quick. I have been doing this for years and years. It's because I focus only on a few issues I am able to keep up with the latest research in those topics.

People are free to choose their own treatments. If Roaccutane or Dianette works -why not use them?Because it is silly to use products that may cause serious side effects when you can eliminate the cause of the problem with cheap, safe, natural modifications to your diet and lifestyle. As these diet/lifestyle modifications also have a beneficial effect on all aspects of your health you are in a win win situation. Being a slave to big pharma for the rest of you live is fine for them but it leads to a dependancy culture.

Having a healthy diet is always a good idea but you come across as someone who has ALL the answers for everyone. [/QUOTE]But the underlying problems are the same for everyone.
Show me people in the UK who are not low in vitamin d3
Show me the evidence people consume reasonable amount of omega 3 each week.
Provide the evidence that people generally have adequate levels of magnesium.

Now we know that low carb eating leads to improved health markers and lower weight why can't the health professionals provide us with accurate up to date science based advice?