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Nationwide - July - 1.7% YOY -8.1%

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  • baby_boomer
    baby_boomer Posts: 3,883 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    "Weakening economic conditions may have raised the prospect of interest rate cuts", suggests to Nationwide.

    But a 35% rise in the gas price sure as hell adds to inflation which the Bank of England is mandated to control - with interest rate rises if necessary :eek: .

    I was surprised at the continued high percentage of properties with loans of 90% or more in May 2008. [30% of loans were in this category.] These all look at the risk of negative equity as property prices in 2008 seem "set fair" en route to a 20% drop.
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    Back of envelope calculations suggest that we'll be looking at YoY falls of ~15% by October at which point the rate of annual price change should flatten out as we'll be comparing a falling month this year with a falling month last year. (Hope that makes sense).
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    PS As, according to the CML, the average FTB last year had a 10% deposit, the average FTB from 2007 is going to be in negative equity very soon.
  • Tassotti
    Tassotti Posts: 1,492 Forumite
    A few more falling months and we will be 'officially' in a recession.

    We are not at the moment but with thousands of job losses and the housing market coming dwn, we certainly are n the edge of a recession (a big one)

    I just hope that the government sees that increasing interest rates will NOT help the situation out (but I doubt it..How many politicians actually understand finance)

    Well if it all goes wrong, I'll just declare myself bankrupt and look for sympathy on the banrupt board....Don't think so!!!!!
  • TDS_2
    TDS_2 Posts: 261 Forumite
    It does. 15% over just one year - that's more than I imagined.

    Good news for FTBs.
    Hello.
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Tassotti wrote: »
    A few more falling months and we will be 'officially' in a recession.

    We are not at the moment but with thousands of job losses and the housing market coming dwn, we certainly are n the edge of a recession (a big one)

    I just hope that the government sees that increasing interest rates will NOT help the situation out (but I doubt it..How many politicians actually understand finance)

    Well if it all goes wrong, I'll just declare myself bankrupt and look for sympathy on the banrupt board....Don't think so!!!!!

    A recession is 2 consecutive quarters of real (ie inflation adjusted) GDP falling and has nothing to do with the Nationwide housing index.

    I don't think that the MPC will cut interest rates to save the housing market on the way down any more than they raised them to cool the housing market on the way up.
  • MissMoneypenny
    MissMoneypenny Posts: 5,324 Forumite
    Tassotti wrote: »
    A few more falling months and we will be 'officially' in a recession.

    We are not at the moment but with thousands of job losses and the housing market coming dwn, we certainly are n the edge of a recession (a big one)

    I just hope that the government sees that increasing interest rates will NOT help the situation out (but I doubt it..How many politicians actually understand finance)

    Well if it all goes wrong, I'll just declare myself bankrupt and look for sympathy on the banrupt board....Don't think so!!!!!

    Will you need to have 25% equity in your buy to lets when you remortgage? Or is that 25% deposit requirement, just for new but to lets?
    RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
    Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.


  • poppy10_2
    poppy10_2 Posts: 6,588 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Wow, this is major pwnage! Down 8.1% in a year, and accelerating. In the last crash the annual rate only reach -6.4%, and even that was only briefly.
    poppy10
  • baby_boomer
    baby_boomer Posts: 3,883 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Standard & Poors predict house prices will fall by a FURTHER 17% by April 2009

    "....A 17 per cent fall in prices would take the value of the average house to about £150,000, [25%] down from £199,600 in August last year, according to Halifax figures. S&P said that for every further percentage point decline in house prices, between 60,000 and 180,000 extra homeowners could fall into negative equity......"
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