Could today's Gas Price increases be the final tipping point for the housing market

WTF?_2

kennyboy66 wrote: »

Surely, it either makes financial sense or it doesn't.

I'd personally rather pay up front for something that makes my energy supply more secure and lower cost in the future - even if over, say, a decade, it would have worked out cheaper to take 'mains' electricity and gas.

Why be 100% exposed to rising prices of energy (plus supply-side issues) when you can take steps to diversify away from reliance on the mainstream?

moanymoany

There is a site 'Mother Earth' that gives ideas for solar panels that don't cost the earth - even cheap - but that help to stop what sun we get from being wasted.

In the 1960's my Aunty and Uncle whose house had no water, electricity or gas had a 'whirly' on their roof that gave them light. It was wooden and clunky, but it worked. It must have cost very little as my Uncle was thrifty to the point of miser! When my Aunty wanted the house painted he went round the tips and picked up what thrown out paint cans he could. He mixed them together and the house was painted.

I certainly think that off grid power is worth serious thought. If not for all the leccy/gas we use, certainly for as much as possible. We have plans for a stove with a boiler - waste not want not.

adr0ck

!!!!!!? wrote: »

Rrrrrright. And of course I would never maintain or repair them.

i was indicating the extra cost involved as you were indicating how you were going to sit back and enjoy your energy cost saving over the coming years following your £20,000+ investment in microrenewables

i was simply pointing out that you would probably need to replace a lot of the £20K+ investment in that time

!!!!!!? wrote: »

Since you are in energy-oracle mode, can you tell me what is going to happen to the price and availability of gas (which you seem to be pretty keen on) over the coming years then? Call me paranoid but I see the pronouncements on how GB has turned from an net exporter to an importer (at quite a fast rate) quite alarming...

i agree with this except your energy-oracle mode bit as it seesm to be you thats the oracle:p

hethmar

Re the earlier postings on fires/stoves. My OH fits these and we are currently working flat out 7 days a week to meet the demand.

The next price increase will be for wood If you are lucky enough to live in the country start planting ash trees now.

Lotus-eater

!!!!!!? wrote: »

I notice that the suppliers who formerly only offered minimum 500l deliveries are now going right down to 300l in 50l steps..... a sure sign that their customers are feeling the pinch.
I reckon 'fuel poverty' is about to become a very big issue this winter.

The minimum they can deliver is 500l by law, so I would be surprised if they did 300l.

WTF?_2

adr0ck wrote: »

i was indicating the extra cost involved as you were indicating how you were going to sit back and enjoy your energy cost saving over the coming years following your £20,000+ investment in microrenewables

i was simply pointing out that you would probably need to replace a lot of the £20K+ investment in that time



i agree with this except your energy-oracle mode bit as it seesm to be you thats the oracle:p

I'm fully aware that investing in some renewables and alternative energy sources isn't going to lead to free energy for the rest of my life.

However, I believe that it's worth spending cash up front to diversify on the heating and power front.

For one thing, who can say how much disposable cash you will have 5 or 6 years down the line, so better to spend money on something productive when you have it.

For another, I don't like being 100% reliant on sources that could go anywhere with regards to price and availability of supply. Implementing alternative energy supply measures allows a degree of hedging.

The problem is that typical houses constrain what is possible in terms of implementing alternatives.

adr0ck

!!!!!!? wrote: »

I'm fully aware that investing in some renewables and alternative energy sources isn't going to lead to free energy for the rest of my life.

However, I believe that it's worth spending cash up front to diversify on the heating and power front.

For one thing, who can say how much disposable cash you will have 5 or 6 years down the line, so better to spend money on something productive when you have it.

For another, I don't like being 100% reliant on sources that could go anywhere with regards to price and availability of supply. Implementing alternative energy supply measures allows a degree of hedging.

The problem is that typical houses constrain what is possible in terms of implementing alternatives.

you may be better saving your money and buying a new home in 2016

or 2012 if you fancy living in Wales

breeza

Hi
Does anyone know about getting prices frozen if you are receiving benifits?
I have heard that British Gas will fix the price (as was before the 35% increase) until April 2009

lostinrates

Lotus-eater wrote: »

The minimum they can deliver is 500l by law, so I would be surprised if they did 300l.

I can't find the post you quoted from, but I am presuming this refers to oil.

Our regular oi suppliers are encouraging customers to fit gauges in their tanks so that how much oil you have can be monitored and fuel is not wasted in poorly planned delivery routes. They have never delivered a minimum deivery here, but its never discussed, they just fill us up when they come. BUT with new plans they'l deliver whatever extra they have...i.e. if we have capacity for 300l when they are finishng the day but near the house they will fill us up the 300l.

I've honestly never been quoted a minimum delivery, so while I don't disupte there is a regulation, its never effected me/family in practise.

wannocks

I'm looking at buying a place that needs refurb work. Part of the plan is to install a high efficiency gas boiler and as much insulation as I can. The boiler is old so needs replacing anyway but it makes more sense to stop energy you've bought escaping. I'm also toying with the idea of replacing the spotlights with LED types and the others with compact flourescent lights.