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The Wilsons - 875 buy to let property empire

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  • Trollfever
    Trollfever Posts: 2,051 Forumite
    From:
    27 November 2008
    Grainger plc
    (“Grainger” or the “Company” or the “Group”)
    PRELIMINARY RESULTS FOR THE YEAR ENDED 30 SEPTEMBER 2008
    Grainger plc, the UK’s largest quoted residential property owner, today announces its preliminary
    results for the year ended 30 September 2008.
    Covenants
    Our core facility has two covenants covering loan to value (“LTV”) ratio and interest cover.
    Under the first, a LTV of 80% could lead to default of the agreement. At 70% LTV, purchasing
    restrictions apply. To a large extent the business is currently operating under the restrictions by
    cutting back on new acquisitions. LTV on the core facility at 30 September was 66% although
    this was reduced to 64% shortly after the year end by the early conversion of 78% of our
    convertible bond. We are able to take action to help keep the LTV ratio down, the main one
    being asset sales. We estimate that if we are able to maintain sales proceeds in 2009 at the
    same level as achieved in 2008 then UK asset values as used for covenant purposes will have
    to fall by c.24% in the year ended 30 September 2009 for us to reach 80% LTV.
    Under the second covenant, our interest cost must be covered 1.25 times by net cashflow
    before interest. As at 30 September the ratio stood at 2.2 times (2007: 2.8 times). This
    covenant is calculated by reference to the previous 12 months results and, given the cash
    inflows that we have already achieved to date, we are very confident that this covenant will be
    met at the next testing period in March 2009.
    We maintain regular and constructive dialogue with our banking group and keep them fully
    informed of covenant status. Constant monitoring of these covenants ensures that we can take
    early and proactive measures, for example, asset sales, to prevent default levels being
    reached. This remains a key objective for the near and medium term.
  • Yoshua
    Yoshua Posts: 298 Forumite
    If the Wilsons sign on JSA will the Govt pay the interest on their debts?
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    Yoshua wrote: »
    If the Wilsons sign on JSA will the Govt pay the interest on their debts?
    I think they're of retired age, so no JSA.

    The irony would be that a lot of the staff in their local dole office are probably renting from them ... and will have suddenly found themselves out on their ear with the portfolio sell off.

    So, it would be an interesting scenario if they went down for their dole and got a smack on the nose :)
  • so pushing nearly a year on from the last post (well in a few months!!).

    Have they being declared bankrupt yet? Realistically their porfolio must be down by another 10% and growing.
  • poppy10_2
    poppy10_2 Posts: 6,588 Forumite
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    so pushing nearly a year on from the last post (well in a few months!!).

    Have they being declared bankrupt yet? Realistically their porfolio must be down by another 10% and growing.
    Shhh... don't you know we are well into the recovereh? Everything is going to be fine.
    poppy10
  • ad9898_3
    ad9898_3 Posts: 3,858 Forumite
    edited 8 August 2009 at 12:22AM
    so pushing nearly a year on from the last post (well in a few months!!).

    Have they being declared bankrupt yet? Realistically their porfolio must be down by another 10% and growing.

    I don't think they are going to go down, I suspect the lender (the government) will more than likely prop them up whatever the cost to avoid bad publicity, imagine what would happen to confidence in the whole BTL game if this pond life were allowed to go bust, most banks would likely shut up shop completely on BTL causing housing market mayhem.

    We've seen so far that the government strategy is to prop up the housing market bubble whatever the cost to this generation or the next or the one after that.
  • Any further news on the Wilsons?
  • Wheezy_2
    Wheezy_2 Posts: 1,879 Forumite
    Any further news on the Wilsons?

    Woodrow Wilson died a long time ago and Brian Wilson is still in the Beach Boys I think.
  • LisbonLaura
    LisbonLaura Posts: 1,121 Forumite
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    Any further news on the Wilsons?

    Their press agent still mouths-off here most days.
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    Any further news on the Wilsons?
    i'm sure they're fine and doing well financially.

    they're probably more well off than many on this forum would dream to be.
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