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  • absolutebounder
    absolutebounder Posts: 20,305 Forumite
    why do they do so much damage?
    They mask the ability to think clearly which is needed to come out of depression. Many are addictive. There are side effects. They work by flooding the brains neuro receptors but in reality that is not the correct way the brains neurotransmitters work. They are very specific in their interaction with neuroreceptors.
    There is evidence of them causing violence and suicidal tendencies.
    They affect your ability to think in your natural way. Is that not what alchohol does? Would you want an alcholoic looking after children? I believe thare are better ways of beating depression but time is needed which doctors dont have so they take the quick fix lets see another patient option.
    Then of course there is the evidence that they are no more effective than a placebo.
    Who I am is not important. What I do is.
  • angie_loves_veg
    angie_loves_veg Posts: 1,484 Forumite
    Your comments are intersting AB, and many of these things (to an extent) I agree with, however it also has to be said that Depression itself 'affects your ability to think in a natural way'. Depression is a very destructive illness, and a woman with PND needs support from a range of sources to help her overcome her condition.

    In my situation, with a young child (age 2) who had recently developed a lifelong chronic disability, was that my own illness and thoughts were getting in the way of being a competant, caring mother. Depression was heading me rapidly towards suicide. My period of time using AD's, gave me the ability to seek further treatment and help. Without AD's, as a fast effective treatment, I would never have sought counselling, which, for me, in conjunction with ADs was the better long term treatment option.

    There are a range of options available to GP's who come across depression in a patient. Whilst it may be true of some GP's, I can certainly state that MY GP did *not* see ADs as a quick fix - he spent a great deal of time with me in that first appointment, and many subsequent ones, to discuss the range of treatments and how he thought my treatment could proceed over time - AD's were the first line of attack for what became a very long and difficult process. Even the OP states clearly that she has come off of ADs after 5 1/2 years.
    I believe thare are better ways of beating depression but time is needed
    I agree, but sometimes, at the start of treatment, one thing you do not have is time. In my case, if we had started with talking treatments (which for me were effective, but slow) rather than AD's , I wouldn't be here today.

    So, to conclude my ramble, I think you do make some valid points, but depression needs acknowledgement and fast treatment, and regardless of ones opinion about the AD treeatments that are available (yes, there are side effects, but these are often better than the depression itself), for many people they are the right treatment to proceed with.

    Be well.
  • absolutebounder
    absolutebounder Posts: 20,305 Forumite
    Your comments are intersting AB, and many of these things (to an extent) I agree with, however it also has to be said that Depression itself 'affects your ability to think in a natural way'. Depression is a very destructive illness, and a woman with PND needs support from a range of sources to help her overcome her condition.

    In my situation, with a young child (age 2) who had recently developed a lifelong chronic disability, was that my own illness and thoughts were getting in the way of being a competant, caring mother. Depression was heading me rapidly towards suicide. My period of time using AD's, gave me the ability to seek further treatment and help. Without AD's, as a fast effective treatment, I would never have sought counselling, which, for me, in conjunction with ADs was the better long term treatment option.

    There are a range of options available to GP's who come across depression in a patient. Whilst it may be true of some GP's, I can certainly state that MY GP did *not* see ADs as a quick fix - he spent a great deal of time with me in that first appointment, and many subsequent ones, to discuss the range of treatments and how he thought my treatment could proceed over time - AD's were the first line of attack for what became a very long and difficult process. Even the OP states clearly that she has come off of ADs after 5 1/2 years. I agree, but sometimes, at the start of treatment, one thing you do not have is time. In my case, if we had started with talking treatments (which for me were effective, but slow) rather than AD's , I wouldn't be here today.

    So, to conclude my ramble, I think you do make some valid points, but depression needs acknowledgement and fast treatment, and regardless of ones opinion about the AD treeatments that are available (yes, there are side effects, but these are often better than the depression itself), for many people they are the right treatment to proceed with.

    Be well.
    This is not really the place to discuss as it really should be on another thread because we are hijacking this one.
    The main thing is that the OP is drug free now and that in itself is a real acheivement especially after a long period. As she says she can now concentrate on other things and I expect once she gets a few pounds off she will go from strength to strength.
    Succeeding in doing something for yourself is great for the self esteem.
    Who I am is not important. What I do is.
  • abbecer
    abbecer Posts: 2,177 Forumite
    Awhh bless you all. Everyone has different views of depression and I don't mind at all if you want to discuss it. Personally I know that if I hadn't had medication I would not be here today. A psychiatrist and two nurses came to the house to section me because the health visitor caught me getting ready to commit suicide. My husband begged them not to section me and they agreed providing I agreed to all there terms. I was never allowed on my own, not even in the bath, had to have a nurse bring my medication everyday and all potentially risky objects were removed from the house ie knives, tablets even Calpol. Even then it was a long time before I feel anything resembling 'normal'.I usually believe that medication should be a last resort but in certain circumstances there is no other option.

    I just wanted to post to show people that there is light at the end of the tunnel.

    I have joined a gym and am doing lots of classes and swimming and really enjoy the 'me' time. My youngest was a very poorly baby so has been quite demanding but it's getting easier. He has started nursery and loves it. My boys are my life and I feel so honoured to be their Mum. I still feel a lot of guilt that I wasn't the Mum I should have been. But they are both gorgeous clever, happy little lads and seem to have come through it unscathed.

    Thanks again for your lovely messages

    Rebecca xxx
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