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Rejected POPLA appeal
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patsy21
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Hi all,
A very unreasonable fine has been issued, have gone through the appeals process, been rejected then gone to POPLA. POPLA have just rejected this now too! Unfortunately didn't come on here before and see all of the advice of what to include in the POPLA appeal!
To cut a long story short, this car park says "total stay 4 hours, no return within 2". Fine issued because arrived at the car park at 18:49, left at 21:25 to take my friend to a nearby spot, returned at 21:50 and then left completely at 22:17. This means the car was in the car park within a slot of 3 hours and 28 minutes. 25 minutes of these minutes, the car was outside of the car park!
I think this is completely ridiculous! Fair enough if the car had two hours then left for twenty minutes then come back and stayed another two, then it exceeds the four hour slot.
Thanks for your time.
A very unreasonable fine has been issued, have gone through the appeals process, been rejected then gone to POPLA. POPLA have just rejected this now too! Unfortunately didn't come on here before and see all of the advice of what to include in the POPLA appeal!
To cut a long story short, this car park says "total stay 4 hours, no return within 2". Fine issued because arrived at the car park at 18:49, left at 21:25 to take my friend to a nearby spot, returned at 21:50 and then left completely at 22:17. This means the car was in the car park within a slot of 3 hours and 28 minutes. 25 minutes of these minutes, the car was outside of the car park!
I think this is completely ridiculous! Fair enough if the car had two hours then left for twenty minutes then come back and stayed another two, then it exceeds the four hour slot.
Thanks for your time.
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They might struggle in court, read this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contra_proferentem
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of contracts for alleged parking offences. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Parking Eye, Smart and a smaller company have already been named and shamed, as has Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (who take hundreds of these cases to court, and nearly always lose), who have also been reported to the regulatory authority. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The problem has become so rampant that MPs have agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers. Watch the video of the Second Reading in the HofC recently.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2f0384f2-eba5-4fff-ab07-cf24b6a22918?in=12:49:41[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]and complain in the most robust terms to your MP. With a fair wind most of these companies may well be put out of business by Christmas.[/FONT]You never know how far you can go until you go too far.0 -
"First thing" everyone is politely asked to do is read up on this in tghe newbies faq thread near the top of the forum before starting a new threadFirst things first, do you think I have grounds for the appeal?
Go there now to learn about the game you are caught up in (you have now exhausted the appeal procedure and are in the debt collectors stage)
Throughout you are advised never to reveal who was driving
You need to edit your OP to remove details of who was driving
And if you have used your real name in that post then remove that too
The ppcs monitor this forum and can use your posts against you0 -
Many thanks to you both for replies, advice taken."First thing" everyone is politely asked to do is read up on this in tghe newbies faq thread near the top of the forum before starting a new thread
Go there now to learn about the game you are caught up in (you have now exhausted the appeal procedure and are in the debt collectors stage)
Throughout you are advised never to reveal who was driving
You need to edit your OP to remove details of who was driving
And if you have used your real name in that post then remove that too
The ppcs monitor this forum and can use your posts against you0 -
And search the forum for 'POPLA lost' to find all the dozens of people happily ignoring after losing at POPLA. Depends if the PPC is litigious.
You haven't said which firm? ParkingEye are likely to sue, and e.g. Highview and others won't.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
CLICK at the top of this/any page where it says:
Forum Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD0 -
Coupon-mad wrote: »And search the forum for 'POPLA lost' to find all the dozens of people happily ignoring after losing at POPLA. Depends if the PPC is litigious.
You haven't said which firm? ParkingEye are likely to sue, and e.g. Highview and others won't.
Really sorry I've only just seen this. Thanks so much for replying. It's Northern Parking Services. They're an approved firm. Do you know if this kind of thing go on your credit rating if ignored?
Thanks again everyone, any advice welcomed.0 -
Really sorry I've only just seen this. Thanks so much for replying. It's Northern Parking Services. They're an approved firm. Do you know if this kind of thing go on your credit rating if ignored?
Thanks again everyone, any advice welcomed.
Don't talk rubbish. They are not approved, they are a bunch of scammers.
Nothing will affect our credit rating unless you have been to court, lost, been ordered to pay, failed to pay, and had a CCJ set against you.
The BMPA motoring charity website will tell you the likelihood of them doing court, but they will be easy to beat with help from this forum.
You should complain to your MP.
These are some of the comments made by the MPs in Parliament concerning the unregulated parking industry (Feb 2018):
https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2018-02-02/debates/CC84AF5E-AC6E-4E14-81B1-066E6A892807/Parking(CodeOfPractice)Bill
''Rip-offs from car park Cowboys must stop''; unfair treatment; signage deliberately confusing to ensure a PCN is issued; ''years of abuse by rogue parking companies''; bloodsuckers; ''the current system of regulation is hopeless, like putting Dracula in charge of the blood-bank''; extortionate fines; rogue operators; ''sense of injustice''; unfair charges and notices; wilfully misleading; signage is a deliberate act to deceive or mislead; ''confusing signs are often deliberate, to trap innocent drivers''; unreasonable; a curse; harassing; operating in a disgusting way; appeals service is no guarantee of a fair hearing; loathed; outrageous scam; dodgy practice; outrageous abuse; unscrupulous practices; ''the British Parking Association is as much use as a multi-storey car park in the Gobi desert''; and finally, by way of unanimous conclusion: ''we need to crack down on these rogue companies. They are an absolute disgrace to this country. Ordinary motorists and ordinary residents should not have to put up with this''.
Do you still think they are approved?
These are the exact words used, so you should quote them to your MP in a complaint and ask him/her to contact Sir Greg Knight MP if he wants further information about this scam.I married my cousin. I had to...I don't have a sister.
All my screwdrivers are cordless."You're Safety Is My Primary Concern Dear" - Laks0 -
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