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POPLA Appeal Advice
macamboy
Posts: 2 Newbie
Hi,
I recieved a parking ticket from ParkingEye which I've appealed against and lost.
I'm now considering going through POPLA, but would like some advice please.
Without going through the mitigation, which I know POPLA won't consider, the facts are -
1) I entered the grounds of a pay to park local hospital and left 30 minutes later.
2) I parked in a drop off / pick up zone which apparently had a 20 minute stay duration (the signs weren't very good but, ParkingEye say were adequate).
I believe ParkingEye have to give a grace period of at least 10 minutes when it's relying on ANPR camera photos.
Has anyone come across this before, as I was intending to appeal on this point.
Thanks in advance.
I recieved a parking ticket from ParkingEye which I've appealed against and lost.
I'm now considering going through POPLA, but would like some advice please.
Without going through the mitigation, which I know POPLA won't consider, the facts are -
1) I entered the grounds of a pay to park local hospital and left 30 minutes later.
2) I parked in a drop off / pick up zone which apparently had a 20 minute stay duration (the signs weren't very good but, ParkingEye say were adequate).
I believe ParkingEye have to give a grace period of at least 10 minutes when it's relying on ANPR camera photos.
Has anyone come across this before, as I was intending to appeal on this point.
Thanks in advance.
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Grace periods will often win at POPLA but you really shouldn't go with just a single point, it a bit risky.
Why not use the templates on here?
You can find more details here http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=48168220 -
MPs specifally slated hospital car park scams in the HOC last week, watch the video here
http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2f0384f2-eba5-4fff-ab07-cf24b6a22918?in=12:49:41
then complain in the stringest of terems to your MP. Read this as well. Perhaps to can quote some of it in your PoPLA appeal
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/nhs-patient-visitor-and-staff-car-parking-principles/nhs-patient-visitor-and-staff-car-parking-principlesYou never know how far you can go until you go too far.0 -
@OP
Throughout here you are advised never to reveal who was driving.
You need to edit your post to remove details of who was driving
The ppcs monitor this forum and can use your posts against you0 -
Must have taken you more than 5 minutes to weave through the entrance roads to that drop off point, and again at the end. Grace periods are certainly worth mentioning, is this Barnet hospital, look:
http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/parkingeye-lose-in-court-accuse-drivers.html
Pretty sure the signs allow up to 20 minutes stay/parking AT THE DROP OFF AREA. Therefore you have to have grace periods to drive in and out, you can't teleport there, not even in ParkingEye's la-la land.
A POPLA appeal needs all the usual points as well, from post #3 of the NEWBIES thread.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
CLICK at the top of this/any page where it says:
Forum Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD0 -
Thanks all for the advice so far.
I don't even recall who was driving as both myself and my wife tend to take turns depending on where we are going.
What's worse is that I also don't recall if I mentioned who may have been driving on the original appeal (I know, schoolboy error).
Are we saying an appeal to POPLA is a no go if I stated in the original appeal who I thought was driving?0 -
Are we saying an appeal to POPLA is a no go if I stated in the original appeal who I thought was driving?
But your best bet (as for everyone) is to get the landowner (hospital trust or PALS) to tell PE to cancel it.
Plenty to go at.Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street0 -
It's still ok but it just removes an appeal point. You should win on other points but it's much more satisfying to make a ppc try and justify every single point.0
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Thanks all for the advice so far.
I don't even recall who was driving as both myself and my wife tend to take turns depending on where we are going.
What's worse is that I also don't recall if I mentioned who may have been driving on the original appeal (I know, schoolboy error).
Are we saying an appeal to POPLA is a no go if I stated in the original appeal who I thought was driving?
Why not assume you didn't at this stage and follow the advice given in #4?0 -
What's worse is that I also don't recall if I mentioned who may have been driving on the original appeal (I know, schoolboy error).
At least from now on try and keep records of everything received and sent.0 -
Why do people think that they are doomed if they named the driver, when POPLA appeals normally win on completely different standard things, like lack of landowner authority, and dodgy signs, and 'no grace period to drive in and out of a large site' (like in your case).PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
CLICK at the top of this/any page where it says:
Forum Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD0
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