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    • chelseablue
    • By chelseablue 5th Sep 17, 9:58 AM
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    How to find someone in Ireland?
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    • 5th Sep 17, 9:58 AM
    How to find someone in Ireland? 5th Sep 17 at 9:58 AM
    After nearly 35 years of thinking my father was unknown, at the weekend I found out that my family have known who is my whole life.

    Shocked is understatement!

    My question is; all I have his is name (and it is a very common name in Ireland!) Is there anyway of finding him after all these years?

    No date of birth or anything

    Would be really devastated if I never got the chance to meet him
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    • savalittle.
    • By savalittle. 5th Sep 17, 10:53 AM
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    Could you apply to ITV long lost family? or message all "Joe Bloggs" on Facebook if you use that.
    Last edited by savalittle.; 05-09-2017 at 10:57 AM. Reason: extra added
    • Mojisola
    • By Mojisola 5th Sep 17, 11:22 AM
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    www.salvationarmy.org.uk/about-reuniting-families

    This service has a good success rate - although they will only pass on details if your father wants to make contact with you.
    • chelseablue
    • By chelseablue 5th Sep 17, 11:27 AM
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    www.salvationarmy.org.uk/about-reuniting-families

    This service has a good success rate - although they will only pass on details if your father wants to make contact with you.
    Originally posted by Mojisola
    Thank you very much. Just had a look at their criteria and it says I would need to know the following:


    Their age or date of birth (If the person sought was born outside of England, Wales or Scotland, the full date of birth is required.)

    The name of at least one of their parents.

    Their last known whereabouts. Where the person is known to be overseas, the full last known address will be needed.


    Failure to provide any of these details could mean we will have to decline your request.

    Unfortunately I don't have any of that




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    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 5th Sep 17, 11:47 AM
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    Who told you? Can you pump them for more information?
    Northern Ireland? Southern Ireland? Any town names... any job clues?

    The more snippets you can find, the easier your starting point might be.

    You can't just have a name.... because, as you know, many people have the same name.

    The more you can find out about age, job, location, anything, the better your chance of searching.

    There are websites where you can publish a "looking for" advert, although you must expect to put it out there and maybe hear nothing for 5-6 years until somebody randomly discovers it and knows something.

    DNA testing is another round-about way of doing it too. Genealogy websites such as Ancestry give a variety of DNA tests, which end up linking you with "possible people" who have also taken the tests and have family trees online.

    How that works is you might discover a "possible cousin" who turns out to be your father's brother's daughter doing the family tree .... so once you have a "match" you then need to find out how you could be related. This isn't simple because you might not get a match on his side for awhile, until somebody else with the same gene markers also has one done. But people have been known to find their dads this way from "He was an American soldier in WW2".

    How much money you want to throw at it will also depend on the route/s you take.
    • chelseablue
    • By chelseablue 5th Sep 17, 12:02 PM
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    My cousin told me, she was 16 when I was born. He was born in Southern Ireland, Wexford.
    He came over to England in the 1960's I think but my cousin said he has since moved back to Ireland


    My Uncle (my cousins Dad) was really good friends with him, I think they came over to England together.
    But my Uncle died in 1997 so cant ask him anything
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    • Mojisola
    • By Mojisola 5th Sep 17, 12:45 PM
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    • 5th Sep 17, 12:45 PM
    After nearly 35 years of thinking my father was unknown, at the weekend I found out that my family have known who is my whole life.
    Originally posted by chelseablue
    Thank you very much. Just had a look at their criteria and it says I would need to know the following:


    Their age or date of birth (If the person sought was born outside of England, Wales or Scotland, the full date of birth is required.)

    The name of at least one of their parents.

    Their last known whereabouts. Where the person is known to be overseas, the full last known address will be needed.


    Failure to provide any of these details could mean we will have to decline your request.

    Unfortunately I don't have any of that




    Originally posted by chelseablue
    The people who know his name probably know at least some of that.
    • chelseablue
    • By chelseablue 5th Sep 17, 12:55 PM
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    The people who know his name probably know at least some of that.
    Originally posted by Mojisola
    Good idea I will try and find out. Not sure anyone will remember much after 35 years but worth a shot
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    • macman
    • By macman 5th Sep 17, 12:56 PM
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    Why not start with your own birth certificate, which will give his name, occupation and place of birth? Once you track his date of birth too, it should be very straightforward, regardless of a common name.
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    • chelseablue
    • By chelseablue 5th Sep 17, 12:58 PM
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    Why not start with your own birth certificate, which will give his name, occupation and place of birth? Once you track his date of birth too, it should be very straightforward, regardless of a common name.
    Originally posted by macman
    My birth certificate says 'Unknown' in the Fathers section
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    • skint_chick
    • By skint_chick 5th Sep 17, 12:59 PM
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    So how did your uncle know him - through work then what did your dad do/ where did he? Through something social - would your dad still be in touch with people with in that club/with those interests? Does your cousin know roughly what age he would be based on your uncle's age? If he went back to Ireland to be with family then maybe he is still in Wexford - worth a google and maybe worth a post on boards.ie regional section. If your uncle came to England with your dad then it's likely they were from the same town/village if it isn't Wexford town itself so well worth asking your cousin for more details about where her dad was from and does he still have cousins etc there that you could contact to see if they know your dad's family.

    The other thing you need to think about is what happens if this doesn't have the outcome you want and he isn't interested in being found/having a relationship with you

    Check ancestry on a free trial for family trees containing any info on him (I've had 2 distant family members contact me this way when tree matches came up) and check the message boards for the family surname to see if anyone else is looking for him or you can find out anything new.
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    • Mojisola
    • By Mojisola 5th Sep 17, 1:16 PM
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    He was born in Southern Ireland, Wexford.

    He came over to England in the 1960's I think but my cousin said he has since moved back to Ireland

    My Uncle (my cousins Dad) was really good friends with him, I think they came over to England together.

    But my Uncle died in 1997 so cant ask him anything
    Originally posted by chelseablue
    We sometimes get letters in our local paper asking for someone 'lost' to get in contact - with knowing his name and that he and your uncle came to England together, you could put out a request.

    See if there are any Wexford local FB sites, especially ones related to family history and post there.

    As your uncle was good friends with him, your father was probably about the same age. With a name, an approximate age and an area, you could see what crops up in the birth registrations.

    Any likely hits can be traced 'sideways' to find other possible family members. I've done this in my family tree research and have found the person I was looking for through sending letters to a short list of possibles.
    • macman
    • By macman 5th Sep 17, 1:33 PM
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    Census records in the UK (not sure if there is an equivalent in Eire?)
    Electoral roll?
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    • mark5
    • By mark5 5th Sep 17, 2:06 PM
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    Could you contact any of your uncles family back in Ireland, they might know who he come over with?

    If they were friends back in Ireland it's a good chance they come from the same area.
    Last edited by mark5; 05-09-2017 at 2:07 PM. Reason: Spelling mistake
    • IAmWales
    • By IAmWales 5th Sep 17, 2:22 PM
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    My cousin told me, she was 16 when I was born. He was born in Southern Ireland, Wexford.
    He came over to England in the 1960's I think but my cousin said he has since moved back to Ireland


    My Uncle (my cousins Dad) was really good friends with him, I think they came over to England together.
    But my Uncle died in 1997 so cant ask him anything
    Originally posted by chelseablue
    Thw town or the county? If the town, I'd be posting on local Facebook pages and the like. Ireland still tends to have strong communities, people know each other, or if they don't they'll know someone who does.
    • chelseablue
    • By chelseablue 5th Sep 17, 2:34 PM
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    Thw town or the county? If the town, I'd be posting on local Facebook pages and the like. Ireland still tends to have strong communities, people know each other, or if they don't they'll know someone who does.
    Originally posted by IAmWales
    The county
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    • amanda p
    • By amanda p 8th Sep 17, 5:46 PM
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    Very best of luck with this. I was adopted and my mother came from S. Ireland. It took me 30 years of searching and in the end I employed a genealogist who managed to trace her. It took him a year. She to had a very common Irish surname and was from a large family. Some of the family had moved to England, some had stayed in Ireland. It was not an easy search and my advice would be try somebody official to help you. The trouble is with social media if he doesn't know he had a child, if he has his own family that are unaware of his past a huge can of worms can be opened.
    In adoption searches that is why an intermediary is used to bridge the gap so to speak. There is also the possibility that he won't want to know which is another hurdle to overcome.
    I can understand exactly where you are coming from, but proceed with the utmost caution a lot of lives could be affected by your findings.
    One of the plusses of having an 'outsider' do the searching is that there are no emotional issues and they tend to search with unbelievable diligence and know how to track things down.
    The very best of luck.
    • chelseablue
    • By chelseablue 26th Sep 17, 8:35 AM
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    I have an update.

    I found out the town in England where he lived, I then went on Facebook and searched for people with his surname from that town.

    Turns out I found one of his nephews, he messaged me back yesterday to say that my Dad died last year

    Thank you all for your advice x
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