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    • ITZ
    • By ITZ 17th Jul 17, 9:09 PM
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    New job not working out
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    • 17th Jul 17, 9:09 PM
    New job not working out 17th Jul 17 at 9:09 PM
    Hello, I started a new job on 3rd July. I left a full time permanent job because I wasnt happy there.
    I got this new job through a friend. It was a simple interview, went there looked around, lots of good reviews online, asked me when I could start. Its only a small business.

    First of all she hasnt asked me for any information - address, bank details, ni number, I was told I would be paid every 2 weeks. I did 37.5 hours in my 1st week and she informed me that as she was going on holiday last week, I wouldnt be needed, so the place was closed. If only she could have told me this before I started but its done now.

    I was told it would be a trial period on minuimum wage.
    It's not the easiest job in the world to learn, and I think this may be my last week. It's not going as planned and I reckon she might say its best to leave. And go be honest I wouldnt mind as its very stressful and keeping me awake.
    But I'm just a bit worried about the pay situation. What exactly can I do should I get paid short or she refuses to pay? I'm rubbish at the job, yeah, but I was still there alll those hours.
    And the fact she hasnt asked for NI number or bank details makes me wonder if its cash in hand and that wouldnt be helpful as it would affect tax credits.

    Also, should I leave, how do I explain on my CV leaving a new job after a few months to go into another which only lasted probably a few weeks.

    Just a bit of a mess now as the only money I know for sure I'm getting this month is holidays due from last job and tax credits. Been years since I signed on I dont have a clue how it works now, and I also live with a family member who is expecting a months keep at the end of the month.
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    • keepcalmandstayoutofdebt
    • By keepcalmandstayoutofdebt 17th Jul 17, 10:31 PM
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    • 17th Jul 17, 10:31 PM
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    • 17th Jul 17, 10:31 PM
    Hi, You might really need to foist your information on to the new employer - I hate saying this you might need to prepare as having had to work some of the time as 'in hand' especially with a small employer. (If you continue) as even if you do leave you would be due pay. (If you were to leave then the 'in hand' would come back to you still anyway)

    I don't know if you should leave to be honest - I done both at times and both hurt equally. I'm really mixed - I think it depends on what you think you might want to do next career wise, whether you can carry out job seeking discretely whilst remaining in employment etc to the point you worry about.

    I've an awful to strong CV which I managed to turn into positives, I had to fight my corner over this - Commercial awareness, different ways of working, able to take a risk, showing logic in the routes taken, that said I have stuck in employment this time and eventually landed up with 2 offers same day. After getting 6 months extra on an employer I wasn't sure about previously at 3 months so anything can happen.

    Keep calm, try not to do anything rash, what does your friend think? falling inbetween the bar stools can happen to anyone, the fun is getting back up x
    "If you are caught in a rainstorm, once you accept that you'll receive a soaking, the only thing left to do is enjoy the walk"
    • asajj
    • By asajj 18th Jul 17, 12:06 AM
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    • 18th Jul 17, 12:06 AM
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    • 18th Jul 17, 12:06 AM
    Well did you sign anything showing pay rate etc?
    £2015 in 2015 / £2015

    No buying unnecessary stuff.
    Clearing out by selling on Ebay, donating to charity etc.
    • keepcalmandstayoutofdebt
    • By keepcalmandstayoutofdebt 27th Jul 17, 1:34 PM
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    • 27th Jul 17, 1:34 PM
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    • 27th Jul 17, 1:34 PM
    Did you leave OP? just wonder how it turned out for you.
    "If you are caught in a rainstorm, once you accept that you'll receive a soaking, the only thing left to do is enjoy the walk"
    • ITZ
    • By ITZ 29th Jul 17, 10:58 AM
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    • 29th Jul 17, 10:58 AM
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    • 29th Jul 17, 10:58 AM
    Hello, no I didnt sign anything before or when I started. All I remember is her saying it would be 9-5 Monday-Friday at minimum wage, paid every 2 weeks, and a trial period.

    I am still there, and I've still not been paid. I was asked for tax/bank/ni on Tuesday 18th July, I wrote it all down and gave it on the Thursday only to be told something about the accountant being off until this week. And nothing has showed up on the HMRC account so I dont think it has been dealt with.

    So I've done 3 full weeks since 3rd July, plus a week unpaid holiday. Surely they must realise I'm wondering about pay but I'm worried about bringing it up.

    To be honest its a really hard job, and depressing, and the other worker there is a bully when the owner isnt around. I would leave today if I thought I would get paid in full.
    • keepcalmandstayoutofdebt
    • By keepcalmandstayoutofdebt 29th Jul 17, 1:13 PM
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    • 29th Jul 17, 1:13 PM
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    • 29th Jul 17, 1:13 PM
    Hello - how long was the trial to be? Hopefully others will have better suggestions but I think I'd start asking what is happening regardless of consequences now. What is there to lose. Not sure where you stand with the enforced company shutdown the second week. Hope wages will appear for you Monday.
    "If you are caught in a rainstorm, once you accept that you'll receive a soaking, the only thing left to do is enjoy the walk"
    • TyreLever
    • By TyreLever 29th Jul 17, 11:53 PM
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    • 29th Jul 17, 11:53 PM
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    • 29th Jul 17, 11:53 PM
    Quit the job, forget about the money and move on, lesson learned. Sometimes these things are painful as you have learned the hard way.
    • xapprenticex
    • By xapprenticex 30th Jul 17, 12:00 AM
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    • 30th Jul 17, 12:00 AM
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    • 30th Jul 17, 12:00 AM
    You was better off in the job you was unhappy with but getting paid.

    Rule #1. Don't mix friends/family and money.
    • keepcalmandstayoutofdebt
    • By keepcalmandstayoutofdebt 2nd Aug 17, 6:20 PM
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    • 2nd Aug 17, 6:20 PM
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    • 2nd Aug 17, 6:20 PM
    So what happened ITZ? Did wages turn up this week are we're now in new month, update please.
    "If you are caught in a rainstorm, once you accept that you'll receive a soaking, the only thing left to do is enjoy the walk"
    • ITZ
    • By ITZ 6th Aug 17, 7:17 PM
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    Hello, thanks for the replies.

    I was due to be paid 3 weeks of work on Friday. I was actually asked for my details again as they were lost. I ended up getting paid today, but not the full amount, and from what I can see on hmrc online no tax/ni has been paid. I was told I would get the rest next week.
    I am still due a full week plus the leftovers from this payment. Also some overtime which I know I wont get.

    So I think I will quit tomorrow, or Tuesday. Just not happy there, and they've made it clear I'm not performing well so its sort of like quit or be fired, every day I'm wondering if I'll get sacked or worry that I'll be asked to do something I'm not good at. Not worth the stress and worry, I was off work sick for a long time and I've done alot in the past few years, completely turned life around, so its not worth the risk in staying there.

    Working on my CV now. I think I will just be honest and include this on my CV. Explaining why I left the last one will be easy. This one I'm not too sure about. It's a trial period, I could just say something like it wasnt challenging enough(it was, but I cant say it was too hard). Also if I find somewhere closer I could say the travelling.
    Actually had a decent CV until this.

    Some have told me not to include it on my CV. But what would happen if a new employer asks for my most recent P45? I am waiting for my last one. If I give them that would they know that I've worked since?

    Obviously money will be an issue, but I've never had any trouble getting interviews, or companies ringing for interviews, so I think temp work to start with. Will just have to see how this job could affect it, but sure things will work out for the best eventually.
    • CapricornLass
    • By CapricornLass 6th Aug 17, 8:37 PM
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    Hi, I was in a similar position last year, when I walked out of a job because I was being bullied.

    I was told by an Employment specialist/mentor that the easiest way to get round this on your CV is to say

    'I decided to resign from this post after it became clear that this was not the right role for me.'


    This worked nicely for me.

    Good luck with your next job.

    Sealed Pot Challenge no 265.
    • keepcalmandstayoutofdebt
    • By keepcalmandstayoutofdebt 6th Aug 17, 8:53 PM
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    Won't bore with the links but simply google 'new job not working out' - and it doesn't seem that bad. Provided you've tried talking to someone and learn the lesson that for next time, more questions have to be asked. (I'm in this category)

    Though I have come across a version where the person ended up in a better position so all is not lost.

    Don't know but could you not agree if you don't get remainder of monies that they would at least confirm time spent at the company ?

    Know someone who put a recent application into the one of the posher supermarkets to tide them over - The online application for the supermarket doesn't want to know details of job if 4 weeks or less - only takes details of one job so it seems very fortunate you'd put down details of the before employer.

    Anyway let us know how you get on, I'm still waiting for a P45 from a temp job in January, no one ever asked for it, no one has asked me for one this year.
    Somewhere I've started it was said I'd receive more info on the company once 2 weeks in hand business has passed, wtf, in my opinion it is to late and madness, if someone has contact with their customers etc. What's the point in losing more confidence.

    Not sure what is going on. Like to think the weather's playing a part.
    "If you are caught in a rainstorm, once you accept that you'll receive a soaking, the only thing left to do is enjoy the walk"
    • ITZ
    • By ITZ 19th Aug 17, 8:25 PM
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    Hello, I left this job on Thursday. I found some work through an agency, not ideal but it's close to home and I'll just see how it goes.

    I worked 28 days in total there in total. Got paid 3 weeks worth of pay, over 2 payments. But nothing has shown up on HMRC online. So I don't think tax/ni has been paid.

    Also, I was receiving tax credits based on disability. I totally forgot to renew and now the website won't let me.
    I was due a payment Wednesday but I never got it.
    I understand that it needs sorting out, and I'll phone them, but if tax/ni wasn't paid wouldn't it look like work on the side? I know some money was deducted cause I got around 600.77p.


    The agency job says 48hrs 1 week, 36 the next. But there are reviews of people being sent home or going a week without work
    • keepcalmandstayoutofdebt
    • By keepcalmandstayoutofdebt 20th Aug 17, 12:04 PM
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    The agency job says 48hrs 1 week, 36 the next. But there are reviews of people being sent home or going a week without work
    Originally posted by ITZ
    It's tough but if people are putting reviews up publicly to complain, get themselves noticed, it's no wonder they are not going to get work/hours.

    Sadly I beat you, I quit Monday after covering the holiday as that seemed the right thing to do, was thanked for doing it face to face, got to understand a real weakness I have so all wasn't lost, wish I had loved the business as I think that would have made things easier. I couldn't bear the thought of progression and wasting anyone's further time.

    The company paid me as it turned out they outsourced payroll and
    the one time I supplied my bank details by email, actually everything ended ok just this once if nothing else. Hope you get the other issues sorted.
    "If you are caught in a rainstorm, once you accept that you'll receive a soaking, the only thing left to do is enjoy the walk"
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