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    • Elysander
    • By Elysander 21st Jun 17, 2:49 PM
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    NW Car Parks lose in Liverpool
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    • 21st Jun 17, 2:49 PM
    NW Car Parks lose in Liverpool 21st Jun 17 at 2:49 PM
    Hot off the press!


    Claim number D3QZ93D2
    Claimant NW Car Parks Ltd (Represented by NW employee ******Name removed by Forum Team*****)
    Defendant Ms R
    Claim Amount £165 (£100 pcn, £40 admin, £25 court fee)
    Car Park Location: Sykes Street Preston


    In front of Deputy Causton


    I sat in on the above case which took place just after 11.30 this morning.


    The defendant and their family were celebrating a joyous occasion and had parked their vehicle in a dimly lit car park in the hours of darkness in Preston. A parking ticket was paid for and the family went off to enjoy their evening. On returning to the vehicle, the family were upset to find that a PCN was attached to the vehicle's windscreen. The ticket had been issued as the back wheel was slightly over the marking of the parking bay. Subsequent correspondence from NW was ignored, as the defendant believed that, as they had purchased a parking ticket, they were not liable for the charge. The usual chain of letters came and went until NW issued a claim. On receipt of the claim, the defendant chose to defend the claim and fully complied with the courts directions by preparing their signed and dated witness statements etc within the required time frame. Unfortunately NW chose not to provide a witness statement, merely sending the defendant an unsigned/undated document which was effectively a timeline of events. The Judge asked {name removed by MSE Forum Team} to explain why NW had not provided a witness statement, She replied by stating that this was NW's first court claim and that they did not know they needed to provide one! The Judge told {name removed by MSE Forum Team} that NW had failed to comply with the directions. NW provided photos of the vehicle parked, yet provided photos of the signage in broad daylight. The defendant questioned this and quite rightly stated that the car park was poorly lit and signs were not easily readable. {name removed by MSE Forum Team} advised the Judge that the defendant had not engaged in NW's 'fair' appeal service. The Judge asked the defendant the reason for this. They advised him that they felt that, as they had paid to park, the pcn should not have been issued in the first place and that an appeal would be futile. After a short deliberation, the Judge dismissed the claim as NW had not complied with directions and that one wheel was only slightly over the bay marking.


    The self employed defendant was only awarded travel expenses of £5.50, They did ask about costs, but as they are self employed this was refused.


    It must be noted that the defendant conducted themselves in a highly professional manner. I was most impressed by they way the defended the claim. I spoke to the defendant after the case and they told me that another family member had initially told them to pay the parking charge!


    Congrats to Ms R for a well deserved win and for seeing NW out for a 'golden duck'!
    Last edited by MSE Andrea; 23-06-2017 at 2:32 PM.
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    • IamEmanresu
    • By IamEmanresu 21st Jun 17, 3:20 PM
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    • 21st Jun 17, 3:20 PM
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    • 21st Jun 17, 3:20 PM
    She replied by stating that this was NW's first court claim and that they did not know they needed to provide one!
    There is a career for this woman at Gladstones as she is right up their street.

    I'd call this a rout.
    Life's for living, get on with it rather than worrying about these. If they hassle, counter claim.
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 21st Jun 17, 3:22 PM
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    • #3
    • 21st Jun 17, 3:22 PM
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    • 21st Jun 17, 3:22 PM
    Nice report Elysander, thank you for taking the time to do so. And well done to Ms R (defendant) in dealing well with court procedures.

    Isn't it ironic that NW argued that as this was their first time in taking court action they should have some sympathy for not fully following court orders. One assumes that it was a first time for Ms R too - yet she had no problem in following them.
    Last edited by Umkomaas; 21-06-2017 at 4:50 PM.
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

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    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 21st Jun 17, 4:48 PM
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    • #4
    • 21st Jun 17, 4:48 PM
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    • 21st Jun 17, 4:48 PM
    Brilliant to read about this win, well done Ms R!

    Pathetic that they dragged her through the courts for parking over a line that couldn't be seen in the dark, holding them to terms that couldn't be seen in the dark.

    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 21st Jun 17, 5:19 PM
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    • 21st Jun 17, 5:19 PM
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    • 21st Jun 17, 5:19 PM
    Nice one, great report

    {Text removed by MSE Forum Team}
    Last edited by MSE Andrea; 23-06-2017 at 2:30 PM.
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    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 21st Jun 17, 8:17 PM
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    • #6
    • 21st Jun 17, 8:17 PM
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    • 21st Jun 17, 8:17 PM
    Now as seen on the Parking Prankster

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2017/06/nw-car-park-golden-duck-in-first-court.html

    {Text removed by MSE Forum Team}

    What a complete farce
    Last edited by MSE Andrea; 23-06-2017 at 2:30 PM.
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • Elysander
    • By Elysander 23rd Jun 17, 7:52 PM
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    • 23rd Jun 17, 7:52 PM
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    • 23rd Jun 17, 7:52 PM
    Name removed by the Forum Team!
    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 23rd Jun 17, 8:33 PM
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    • #8
    • 23rd Jun 17, 8:33 PM
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    • 23rd Jun 17, 8:33 PM
    is Mr rigby a shareholder in MSE?
    Last edited by pappa golf; 23-06-2017 at 8:46 PM.
    • waamo
    • By waamo 23rd Jun 17, 8:37 PM
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    • #9
    • 23rd Jun 17, 8:37 PM
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    • 23rd Jun 17, 8:37 PM
    Name removed by the Forum Team!
    Originally posted by Elysander
    And yet courts are an open forum. Unless reporting restrictions are in place they are the essence of "in the public domain".
    This space for hire.
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 23rd Jun 17, 8:46 PM
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    And yet courts are an open forum. Unless reporting restrictions are in place they are the essence of "in the public domain".
    Originally posted by waamo
    As this is an open forum, it's just as easy to complain
    Probably shows just how well read this forum is, which is flattering
    Last edited by beamerguy; 23-06-2017 at 8:49 PM.
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    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 23rd Jun 17, 9:57 PM
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    Name removed by the Forum Team!
    Originally posted by Elysander
    Still showing on the Prankster's blog!
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • Redx
    • By Redx 23rd Jun 17, 10:12 PM
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    "and tonight ******* , I am going to be !!!!! , daffy ducked"
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 23rd Jun 17, 10:18 PM
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    let you lot work the link out https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/nNXXqgwhrHCgJyOi0djsgfEatNM/appointments
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 23rd Jun 17, 10:31 PM
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    So many resignations ???

    Were these "Dragons Den" stuff ....... "I'M OUT"
    Last edited by beamerguy; 23-06-2017 at 10:39 PM.
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
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