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    • teebird
    • By teebird 20th Jan 16, 7:53 PM
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    SCAM WARNING-City Council Court??!
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    • 20th Jan 16, 7:53 PM
    SCAM WARNING-City Council Court??! 20th Jan 16 at 7:53 PM
    Hi everyone,
    Im in Northern Ireland and was contacted by some people claiming to be from the Despatch team of City County Court of London with a cheque for me from a PPI claim. I have been making claims so it sounded possible.
    The format was very similar to previous posters. I was first told that I would have to show paysafe vouchers to the courier and he would give me the cheque. The guy said the paysafe vouchers would be collected by another courier once I had confirmed that the cheque had cleared in my bank account. Again this sounded fair.
    But at 4pm no courier arrived and at 4.30 I got another phone call from their validation department asking for the 16 digit codes so they could validate my paysafe vouchers. I refused telling him I wouldnt do that until I had received the cheque and it had cleared. After some to,ing and fro,ing he gave up. This was in early December.
    They contacted me again yesterday. This time I asked for an address and phone number and said I would phone them back. He gave address 137 Finchley road, London
    020 8133 4385 ask for Martin or Alec Cooper

    This scam comes up on google as going on from 2012!
    They are insistent that their method is government approved and that they cant use the vouchers by just having the PIN codes.
    !!!!THIS IS A LIE!!!!

    I'm now locked in an email procedure while trying to get a refund of these Paysafe vouchers.
    I hope no-one else gets stuck in this situation
    __________________
    Happiness is a smile a day and a bad memory.
    Happiness is a smile a day and a bad memory.
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    • boo_star
    • By boo_star 20th Jan 16, 9:37 PM
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    • #2
    • 20th Jan 16, 9:37 PM
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    • 20th Jan 16, 9:37 PM
    I would have run a mile when they mentioned "PaySafe" to be honest.
    • TadleyBaggie
    • By TadleyBaggie 20th Jan 16, 10:10 PM
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    • #3
    • 20th Jan 16, 10:10 PM
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    • 20th Jan 16, 10:10 PM
    The "advance fee" scam has been around longer than 2012. This is just a variation on it.
    • hollydays
    • By hollydays 21st Jan 16, 8:31 AM
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    • #4
    • 21st Jan 16, 8:31 AM
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    • 21st Jan 16, 8:31 AM
    Is there even such a thing as " city county court".
    • paddyrg
    • By paddyrg 21st Jan 16, 10:24 AM
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    • #5
    • 21st Jan 16, 10:24 AM
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    • 21st Jan 16, 10:24 AM
    Why would it even seen rational in any circumstance to need to pay with vouchers for a company to give you a cheque supposedly of the money they are giving to you?

    Legit institutions just don't operate this way, advance fee fraud all works this way.
    • Poppie68
    • By Poppie68 21st Jan 16, 1:01 PM
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    • #6
    • 21st Jan 16, 1:01 PM
    • #6
    • 21st Jan 16, 1:01 PM
    Hi everyone,
    Im in Northern Ireland and was contacted by some people claiming to be from the Despatch team of City County Court of London with a cheque for me from a PPI claim. I have been making claims so it sounded possible.
    The format was very similar to previous posters. I was first told that I would have to show paysafe vouchers to the courier and he would give me the cheque. The guy said the paysafe vouchers would be collected by another courier once I had confirmed that the cheque had cleared in my bank account. Again this sounded fair.
    But at 4pm no courier arrived and at 4.30 I got another phone call from their validation department asking for the 16 digit codes so they could validate my paysafe vouchers. I refused telling him I wouldnt do that until I had received the cheque and it had cleared. After some to,ing and fro,ing he gave up. This was in early December.
    They contacted me again yesterday. This time I asked for an address and phone number and said I would phone them back. He gave address 137 Finchley road, London
    020 8133 4385 ask for Martin or Alec Cooper

    This scam comes up on google as going on from 2012!
    They are insistent that their method is government approved and that they cant use the vouchers by just having the PIN codes.
    !!!!THIS IS A LIE!!!!

    I'm now locked in an email procedure while trying to get a refund of these Paysafe vouchers.
    I hope no-one else gets stuck in this situation
    __________________
    Happiness is a smile a day and a bad memory.
    Originally posted by teebird





    The mind boggles!!!!

    How on earth did you think anything about this was legit? A quick Google would of confirmed this as a scam.
    If you have got any PPI claims pending you really need to be more vigilant and find out who you think owes you money.
    • Poppie68
    • By Poppie68 21st Jan 16, 1:03 PM
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    • 21st Jan 16, 1:03 PM
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    • 21st Jan 16, 1:03 PM
    Is there even such a thing as " city county court".
    Originally posted by hollydays


    City council court and no.....
    • teebird
    • By teebird 21st Jan 16, 1:04 PM
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    • #8
    • 21st Jan 16, 1:04 PM
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    • 21st Jan 16, 1:04 PM
    Thanks for all the replies guys. I am aware of the scams that ask for 'fees' first. I was NEVER going to fall for that.

    The first guy had promised that the paysafe vouchers had ONLY to be SHOWED to the courier to prove I would pay the fee. He said they would then have no acess to that money until I confirmed that the cheque had cleared in my account. Even in my scam savvy way I thought that was safe enough.

    It was only the second phone call that rang ALL the warning bells when I was asked for numbers from paysafe vouchers. They have GOT NOTHING FROM ME.


    I have been a pain to them asking for loads of details-;
    why they couldnt just post the cheque? - I was told that Courts always ask for delivery this way. I'm no expert on Courts
    Could I just collect it? - I was given the address 137 Finchley road, London. That didnt ruffle them
    Could I have a think and phone them back? - I got the number 020 81334385 ask for Martin (the despatch organiser) or Alec Cooper (the Manager) I didnt phone them cos Im sure its bogus

    All this time I have just tried to get as much info from them as possible to keep them on MY HOOK LOL
    I have passed all of this on to PSNI and ACTION FRAUD
    I posted here just to ALERT people that its happening right NOW

    I know too many capitals in this post. Sorry
    Happiness is a smile a day and a bad memory.
    • peter_the_piper
    • By peter_the_piper 21st Jan 16, 1:36 PM
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    • 21st Jan 16, 1:36 PM
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    • 21st Jan 16, 1:36 PM
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5006608

    Been around a while.
    I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.
    • Poppie68
    • By Poppie68 21st Jan 16, 3:11 PM
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    Thanks for all the replies guys. I am aware of the scams that ask for 'fees' first. I was NEVER going to fall for that.

    The first guy had promised that the paysafe vouchers had ONLY to be SHOWED to the courier to prove I would pay the fee. He said they would then have no acess to that money until I confirmed that the cheque had cleared in my account. Even in my scam savvy way I thought that was safe enough.

    It was only the second phone call that rang ALL the warning bells when I was asked for numbers from paysafe vouchers. They have GOT NOTHING FROM ME.


    I have been a pain to them asking for loads of details-;
    why they couldnt just post the cheque? - I was told that Courts always ask for delivery this way. I'm no expert on Courts
    Could I just collect it? - I was given the address 137 Finchley road, London. That didnt ruffle them
    Could I have a think and phone them back? - I got the number 020 81334385 ask for Martin (the despatch organiser) or Alec Cooper (the Manager) I didnt phone them cos Im sure its bogus

    All this time I have just tried to get as much info from them as possible to keep them on MY HOOK LOL
    I have passed all of this on to PSNI and ACTION FRAUD
    I posted here just to ALERT people that its happening right NOW

    I know too many capitals in this post. Sorry
    Originally posted by teebird



    Courts don't dole out money though, the money would come from whoever had the judgement against them. That said why would the PPI claims be going through a (non existent) court anyway... Claims are dealt with in house, and you would never ever be asked to pay them so they then send you a payment back.
    If as you say you do have PPI claims outstanding please be more wary of who you are actually dealing with.
    • macman
    • By macman 21st Jan 16, 3:14 PM
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    Why would a fictitious 'city county' court be paying out your PPI claim? Such a claim, if successful, would be paid out either by the policy issuer, or, if you used a claims handler, by them sending you a cheque minus their commission.
    There's no involvement of any civil court whatsoever.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop
    • hollydays
    • By hollydays 21st Jan 16, 9:30 PM
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    City council court and no.....
    Originally posted by Poppie68
    In the body of his post he refers to a city county court
    • Latazza
    • By Latazza 24th Jan 16, 12:39 AM
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    Thanks for all the replies guys. I am aware of the scams that ask for 'fees' first. I was NEVER going to fall for that.
    Originally posted by teebird
    So I went ahead and bought the PaySafe vouchers....
    • Sharon87
    • By Sharon87 24th Jan 16, 11:09 AM
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    If you google the address it is a PPI claiming company, but the phone number is completely different to the one they gave you. Always google anything they give you, it looks like they're using the PPI company as their cover.
    • hybernia
    • By hybernia 24th Jan 16, 12:29 PM
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    The actual company operating out of 137 Finchley Road, London NW3 6JG is PPI Claimline Ltd, formed in 2005. It is a subsidiary of Emc Advisory Services Ltd. The actual office building is known as Centre Heights.Their website is:


    http://www.ppiclaimline.com/


    The company's name is misspelled in Google Maps. There, it is said to be called "PPI Claims". Obviously, it isn't, but the foreign scammers who trawl Google Maps for UK locational information don't know that. They're thick.

    They're also not in the UK at all, nor do their telephone calls come from the UK. Instead, they phone from a long-established scam operation in India (India though: who'd a-thought it?) via Skype and spoof the number.

    Every "representative" is of Indian nationality, and though they use British names, they do have a little local difficulty in trying to use a British accent.

    The *genuine* company -- PPI Claimline -- has nothing whatever to do with the scam. ActionFraud is well aware of this scam operation because it has been repeatedly notified of it but it'll do no harm to report it to them yet again:


    http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/report-a-fraud-including-online-crime-questions

    You may also wish contact PPI Claimline via their own website -- and also tell ActionFraud you've done just that.

    Stamping out India-based scam operations isn't easy, given the way the authorities act -- or don't act -- over there (something that is very much the case here, seeing as this particular scam is now in its third year: same scammers, same fraud, same faked phone calls, same 'company name', address and telephone number.)

    After three years of this, you might have thought the guilty parties would by now be locked up in some Indian jail. Think again. However: the more complaints that are made to ActionFraud, and the more PPI Claimline itself demands official action to protect its name, the more chance there is of Mr Navtej Sarna, India High Commissioner in London, getting his ear bent and perhaps doing something about it.

    But please try not to upset any valuable India trade deal which the UK Government may currently be pursuing.

    * By the way, the word "voucher", whenever it is used in any cold-call from any source, is another word for "scam".

    • Poppie68
    • By Poppie68 25th Jan 16, 6:18 AM
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    In the body of his post he refers to a city county court
    Originally posted by hollydays

    Sorry hollydays I obviously mis-read what you posted.
    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 29th Nov 17, 12:21 PM
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    And I don't believe you.
    Diary of a madman
    Walk the line again today
    Entries of confusion
    Dear diary, I'm here to stay
    • TadleyBaggie
    • By TadleyBaggie 29th Nov 17, 1:54 PM
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    And I don't believe you.
    Originally posted by DoaM
    Random post after almost 2 years...or did a spam post get deleted?
    • DCFC79
    • By DCFC79 29th Nov 17, 2:14 PM
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    Random post after almost 2 years...or did a spam post get deleted?
    Originally posted by TadleyBaggie
    I'm going with the latter.
    Can people stop loaning money/being a guarator to family/friends, it rarely ends well and you lose out as your money is gone or you get shafted with being a guarantor.
    • peter_the_piper
    • By peter_the_piper 29th Nov 17, 3:16 PM
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    And the spam Poster.
    I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.
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