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New signs at JLA.
esmerobbo
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Had reason to pass this morning noticed shiny new signs at the road into JLA. Did not have a camera but I will soon. Main difference is below the "NO STOPPING" is the line "£100 CHARGE IF YOU STOP"
The font as been increased slightly, and they have added a repeater sign further along from the junction and one as you come back on yourself from the roundabout.
I wonder if it had anything to do with Pranky's blog after we posted the signage up here?
Also wonder why the IAS thought all previous appeals should not be upheld, if the signage needed changing?
Pictures will follow shortly.;)
The font as been increased slightly, and they have added a repeater sign further along from the junction and one as you come back on yourself from the roundabout.
I wonder if it had anything to do with Pranky's blog after we posted the signage up here?
Also wonder why the IAS thought all previous appeals should not be upheld, if the signage needed changing?
Pictures will follow shortly.;)
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The usual contradictory rubbish which would stand no chance in court.
Either
You CAN stop if you pay them £100, which makes the first line nonsense
Or
The £100 is clearly a penalty in order to deter a certain behaviour.
Saying "No Stopping" does not even start to offer a contract, as you can't start a contract with a definite prohibition.0 -
I thought that VCS was a private parking company and not the police. So why are they dabbling in this "no stopping" nonsense?
I know that they have quoted "security matters" in the past, but as they are not a branch of the security services that is all hot air and just an excuse to dish out their fake fines.What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?0 -
There is no way the can make the signage offer a contract compliant POFA that prevents a vehicle from simply stopping.
In any case, it's still not relevant land.0 -
Photo of new signs at JLA.
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Newly installed repeater signs 50 metres along the road.
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Makes no difference whatsoever as far as I can see. There's still nothing beyond "No Stopping" that could be read from a vehicle moving at 30mph, ergo no contract.
Also does not and cannot do anything to alter the "no keeper liability" situation.Je suis Charlie.0 -
Under what process do they obtain RK details, given that this is nothing to do with parking?Je Suis Cecil.0
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And no 'You agree to pay' contractual tosh! One can only deduce this is a penalty designed to deter stopping!Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street0 -
From the KADOE agreement.B2. Purpose For Which Data Is Provided
B2.1. The DVLA shall provide each requested item of Data to the Customer via the KADOE Service for the Reasonable Cause of enabling the Customer to:
a) seek recovery of unpaid Parking Charges in accordance with the Accredited Trade Association Code of Practice, and using the procedure in Schedule 4 to the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (where the vehicle was parked on private land in England or Wales on a particular date); and
b) otherwise seek recovery from a driver of unpaid Parking Charges in accordance with the Accredited Trade Association Code of Practice (where the vehicle was parked on private land in Scotland or Northern Ireland by that driver on a particular date, or where the Customer has chosen not to pursue, or is not in a position to pursue the vehicle keeper by utilising conditions in Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012).
No mention of 'stopping' contraventions.Je Suis Cecil.0 -
It gets even worse. On PPP somebody has just posted up pictures taken at a MOTO service station showing a CP Plus sign. This says that if you carry out any "commercial activity" then you have to pay them £100 . It also says that they will obtain your details from the DVLA.
http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=98247&hl=What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?0 -
Multiple DPA breaches in my opinion. And by 'multiple' I am being conservative.Je Suis Cecil.0
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