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Would you buy a home close to an electricity substation???
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Old 27-07-2007, 12:56 PM
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Hi all,

I have recently been viewing a 4 bed home in need of renovation, which has loads of potential and is going for around £20k less than market rivals.

However, on closer inspection there is a small electrical closet, aka substation at the bottom of the garden. Well when I say at the bottom of the garden, I mean it's actually in a fenced off enclosure backing on to the garden.

What is the general consensus, about buying/selling near such things? Has anyone any experience. I spoke to two different agents and one denied all knowledge and the other hinted that it could reduce the house by up to 20% when it comes to re-sale.

Any thoughts???
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Old 27-07-2007, 1:40 PM
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Recent studies would indicate that there is no scientific evidence to support any human harm (Electro sensitivity) from mobile phones (see link)...however, preception is reality for most people and some people will believe what they want to believe regarding the health risks posed by radio masts, voodoo, ghosts....power lines......electricity sub stations, walking under ladders etc based on a number of individual factors. I personally would NEVR buy a house in Windsor because the planes would drive me crazy...regardless of it being a 'desirable' location...!!!!!!
An electricity sub station steps down (reduces) the voltage from that carried in the overhead power lines to the voltage that is carried in your home around the wiring...thus, if you are going to die as a result of the EMF emitted by the sub station...you are just as likely to die from having the electricity and the subsequent electro magentic field (EMF) coursing through the cables in, and being consumed by the myriad of electrical appliances in your current home!
Personally, I'd take advantage of the £20k lower selling price and try to negotitate it down further, but ONLY if you intend to stay there and not move (otherwise it'll always be a problem for you trying to sell for the same reasons you are asking now!)
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/...t-illness.html

Have a read of this too.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/...-forward-.html
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Old 27-07-2007, 2:12 PM
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Might be worth asking the neighbours or checking the local papers to see if there have been any problems with it - either faults or vandalism.....we used to live next door to a little substation a few years ago & had no problems...But one of the big ones in the next town to us atm has had two rather big explosions & subsequent fires this year (found to be unrelated parts problems)that have unsurprisingly worried the houses surrounding it...and it's worth thinking about its re-sale value - are your potential buyers going to be put off meaning you get less interest in it or ask for a reduced price?
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Old 27-07-2007, 2:15 PM
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No I wouldn't. Not sure why as I am entirely ignorant about them (must read up on them!). I wouldn't even view it myself if I knew in advance and it might be an erroneous impression but that would make me think that resale might be problematic (if others had the same impression as me)

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Old 27-07-2007, 2:17 PM
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No I would never buy near a substation, pylon or overhead elecricity cables
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Old 27-07-2007, 2:25 PM
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All good points Scrummy and thanks for taking the time to respond.

Just to clarity, the substation as I refer to it occupies an area of approx 3-4 meters sq and stands around 2 meters high. Does the constitute a substation, as any searches on the web return something resembling a nuclear power station in comparison.

Personally, I'm not really bothered about the thing, but we are only planning to stay there for around 3-5 years and it's what may happen when we come to market the property that concerns me.

With the ceiling price in the area of around £179,000 and an asking price for this particular property of £155,000 + renovation costs of around £15-£20k, I'm wondering if the writing is on the wall, and that I should steer clear.

Has anyone else had any negative feedback when selling in this situation, or not made a purchase because of the above???

Thanks again.
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Old 27-07-2007, 2:35 PM
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I would be wary, just in case the health risks are suddenly headlining all the newspapers between when you buy and when you sell.

Friends did buy near one. When they moved in it was an inoffensive brick structure, it was then replaced by a hideous brown plastic structure.
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Old 27-07-2007, 2:44 PM
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Is the substation similar to the picture surrounded by the fence here?
http://www.edfenergy.com/powerup/key...out/page3.html

Or is it more like these ones?
http://www.localhistory.scit.wlv.ac....ubStations.htm

If it's at the bottom of the garden and the garden is over 80ft long then I wouldn't worry about it. Someone will buy it but again you will still have to give them approx. the same discount as you got.

If it's nearer the house then due to the negative press I wouldn't touch it.

I remember seeing a 2 bed house advertised in the local paper about 5 years ago that seemed to be on sale for ever (about 2 years) because it was under a pylon. It was priced the same as a one bedroom flat. I can't remember if it sold as it was the same time as those scare stories came out in the newspaper. I do know that they build flats nearby and some of the area is on a flood plain.

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Old 27-07-2007, 2:52 PM
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I did and I live there quite happily. It's about the size of a single garage and the side of it forms the boundary with the side of my back garden. I've no problems with being there at all. I did think about it before buying the house but I did not come up with any concerns.

We are all surrounded by electric cables in offices, homes, when walking in the country etc. We are constantly bombarded with radio, magnetic and various other frequency waves with no ill effects and have been for many years.
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Old 27-07-2007, 3:02 PM
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The funniest is when people go on TV to complain about electrosensitivity.

Have you seen the number of cables etc in a TV studio!

It's rubbish but it's other people's perception that matters when you come to sell. I'd put in a low offer if it was me, citing the substation. You never know...
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Old 27-07-2007, 4:31 PM
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I lived next to a small substation for years. The only problem was that bulbs kept having to be replaced because (we were told) the voltage is slightly higher the nearer you are to a substation.
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Old 27-07-2007, 5:49 PM
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i've had no problems living next to one.

but i get really bad pains in my 3rd ear and hunch back.

there's no health risks at all
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Old 27-07-2007, 6:33 PM
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I have no experience but it would put me off buying the house.
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Old 27-07-2007, 7:51 PM
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I dont belive in the cancer stuff but i have seen the hole in the ground and surrounding walls after one exploded and it was big, would probably wouldnt put me off as the rarely go boom but i would expect a hefty discount.
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Old 27-07-2007, 9:04 PM
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If you can get it at a good price and you're happy with that, go for it. But negotiate the price way down!

Always amazes me that the people/buyers who tend to view properties like this when you sell query the health implications of a small sub-station whilst reeking of fags and booze! Just one of life's observations!
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There has been a house for sale near me with one of those fenced off in the back garden. Its a lovely house, in one of the most sought after areas in the town. All the other houses are on the market for a few weeks max. This one has been for sale for over a year, every now and then the for sale sign comes down and another company goes up, but still not sold.
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Old 27-07-2007, 9:30 PM
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i'd rather buy a house close to pylons/sub-station etc than on a flodd plain.
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Old 27-07-2007, 9:44 PM
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No, I would not buy such a house. Had the chance a few years ago. My reason was the risk of leukeamia. I spoke to a highly qualified radiation physicist who told me there was lots of debate but no firm scientific evidence either way but that he would not buy it. Good enough for me. Why take the risk? And you may well struggle to sell it.

"We are all surrounded by electric cables in offices, homes, when walking in the country etc. We are constantly bombarded with radio, magnetic and various other frequency waves with no ill effects and have been for many years"

There is world of difference between the EM field from a 240V lightbulb, or radiostation, and that from a high voltage stepdown transformer. Field strength is dependent on voltage (among other things): higher voltage, more powerful elcetromagnetic field. To compare the 2 really is chalk and cheese.

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Old 27-07-2007, 9:47 PM
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If it's a reasonable distance from the house (10m say) then I wouldn't be bothered. Does it have a 50Hz hum though?
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Old 27-07-2007, 10:02 PM
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Thank you all for taking the time to give your opinions. Certainly seems to be some mixed feelings about this one...

To answer Olly300's question, the substation in question looks similar to the one on the right hand page of the link. However, as I say it occupies an area of only 3-4 meters sq, standing 2-3 meters in height. Not to intrusive... http://www.edfenergy.com/powerup/key...out/page3.html

The vendor has already slashed the price from £169,000 to £155,000... My recent offer of £147,500 is still being considered. However, the property needs £15-£20k spending on it to bring it up to date, without taking into account any discount for the radiation box :rolleyes: I'm still undecided...
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