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    • bargepole
    • By bargepole 22nd Jan 14, 5:29 PM
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    Excel Epic Fail Again In Court - can't use excel spreadsheet!
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    • 22nd Jan 14, 5:29 PM
    Excel Epic Fail Again In Court - can't use excel spreadsheet! 22nd Jan 14 at 5:29 PM
    Back in late August, I reported on an Excel case where Excel didn't show up for the hearing in Sheffield, so the claim (no. 3QT55160) was struck out. (Post #36 in this link: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=4755088)

    Excel subsequently made an application to have the claim reinstated (costs them £80), and they were allowed to apply even though it was submitted out of time. The reason they gave was 'administration errors' on their part.

    I advised the defendant to oppose the application, which Excel wanted to be done without a hearing, so she sent in a letter opposing the application, and the hearing took place yesterday.

    This is her report:

    Just wanted to let you know that the hearing took place yesterday to reinstate the case.

    The Judge dismissed my point 2 and 3 regarding dates and rule 3.9, but I pushed point one and also pointed out in their witness statement how they had managed to comply with all other dates, but then forgot the actual court date. Emphasised the personal inconvenience and emotional stress etc.

    The Excel paralegal, Joel Douglas, then demonstrated in epic style his incompetence by describing how he didn't correctly sort a column in an excel spreadsheet leading to him missing the court date.

    Basically the Judge didn't take too kindly to this, belittled him a bit, told him to keep a diary and then finally rejected their application.

    Interestingly Joel Douglas started by saying that he was specifically employed to increase the volume of claims Excel submit through Court. If you are advising anyone else, you can reassure them if his incompetence anyway!

    I hope that's the end of it. Thanks again for all your help, if I can help anyone else in a similar situation, even if it's just a chat for support, please get in touch.
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    So it would appear that a pre-requisite for getting a job in Excel's legal department would be the inability to pour p1ss out of a boot if the instructions are written on the sole ...
    Speeding cases fought: 24 (3 of mine, 21 for others). Cases won: 20. Points on licence: 0. Private Parking Court Cases: Won 23. Lost 7.
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    • trisontana
    • By trisontana 22nd Jan 14, 5:37 PM
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    • 22nd Jan 14, 5:37 PM
    He joins a long line of Excel/VCS legal ineptitude. Remember the guy who tried to go down the NPO route and failed miserably. Or Rachel (toothbrush) Coates and her memorable appearance in Lincolnshire. Followed by the mess she made of the documentation regarding Bawtry Town Council and Doncaster Magistrates Court. Finally you have the VCS employee who thought they were using ANPR Ltd (Trev's company) at Liverpool Airport. It turns out it was another company with a similar name, but owned by Excel.
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
    • esmerobbo
    • By esmerobbo 22nd Jan 14, 5:48 PM
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    • 22nd Jan 14, 5:48 PM
    Oh dear it seems paying low end money is gaining them low end competence!


    By the way Trisontana I walked my dog past the camera van at JLA the other day No company markings on it at all. On each door it says "Camera enforcement vehicle" it has pictures of a camera on the bonnet two on each side panel, and one on the back. I even looked if it had a small sign anywhere but no.
    Had some strange looks from the operator as he munched a banana!

    The only livered van there is an Excel livered kango/berlingo!
    Last edited by esmerobbo; 22-01-2014 at 5:53 PM.
    • Half_way
    • By Half_way 22nd Jan 14, 6:08 PM
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    • 22nd Jan 14, 6:08 PM
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    • 22nd Jan 14, 6:08 PM
    By the way Trisontana I walked my dog past the camera van at JLA the other day No company markings on it at all. On each door it says "Camera enforcement vehicle" it has pictures of a camera on the bonnet two on each side panel, and one on the back. I even looked if it had a small sign anywhere but no.
    Had some strange looks from the operator as he munched a banana!
    If you walk past the van on a regular basis, maybe you should furnish it with a few pepipoo flyers
    • The Slithy Tove
    • By The Slithy Tove 22nd Jan 14, 7:26 PM
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    • 22nd Jan 14, 7:26 PM
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    • 22nd Jan 14, 7:26 PM
    ... the operator as he munched a banana!
    Originally posted by esmerobbo
    Says it all, really.
    • Folkiedave
    • By Folkiedave 23rd Jan 14, 2:55 PM
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    • 23rd Jan 14, 2:55 PM
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    • 23rd Jan 14, 2:55 PM
    Brilliant!!
  • kirkbyinfurnesslad
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    • 23rd Jan 14, 3:14 PM
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    • 23rd Jan 14, 3:14 PM
    He joins a long line of Excel/VCS legal ineptitude. Remember the guy who tried to go down the NPO route and failed miserably. Or Rachel (toothbrush) Coates and her memorable appearance in Lincolnshire. Followed by the mess she made of the documentation regarding Bawtry Town Council and Doncaster Magistrates Court. Finally you have the VCS employee who thought they were using ANPR Ltd (Trev's company) at Liverpool Airport. It turns out it was another company with a similar name, but owned by Excel.
    Originally posted by trisontana
    Navide akbar , followed by some idiot called parvez
    Last edited by kirkbyinfurnesslad; 23-01-2014 at 3:16 PM.
    • 4consumerrights
    • By 4consumerrights 24th Jan 14, 9:36 PM
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    • 24th Jan 14, 9:36 PM
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    • 24th Jan 14, 9:36 PM
    Shows the incompetence of these PPCs in hiring staff without basic skills to do the job.

    Excel-lent result for the defendant though - and it cost Excel another £80 to hear the case again.


    So it would appear that a pre-requisite for getting a job in Excel's legal department would be the inability to pour p1ss out of a boot if the instructions are written on the sole ...
    Originally posted by bargepole
    This seems to be your favourite saying this month BP!
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