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What is 'being MSE'

Goldiegirl
Goldiegirl Posts: 8,805 Forumite
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edited 10 July 2013 at 8:28PM in How much have you saved?
I've been a MSE member for just over 6 months, and in that time I've enjoyed the community part of the forum, got myself some advice, and hopefully made a few helpful suggestions based on a lifetime working in the financial sector, and just a lifetime of living.

My main financial driver is to make the most of the money that I have to enjoy life now and to prepare for an early retirement in about 3 years time.

However, I often see the the phrase 'it's not exactly MSE', usually deployed when someone spends some money.

After further research I'm led to believe that being MSE involves

Wasting the banks time to open multiple bank accounts which you never use, to get benefits worth a negligible amount each month.

Obsessing over your credit score.

Trying to think up ways you might have been mis sold any financial product in the last 30 years, in order to get compensation, and failing, because you weren't mis sold at all.

Being apologetic about spending anything on something that isn't a complete necessity for survival, even if you can afford it.

If that's what 'being MSE' is all about, then I'm so not MSE!


What do you feel is 'being MSE' ?

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  • itch_for_a_glitch
    itch_for_a_glitch Posts: 10,705 Forumite
    Goldiegirl wrote: »
    I've been a MSE member for just over 6 months, and in that time I've enjoyed the community part of the forum, got myself some advice, and hopefully made a few helpful suggestions based on a lifetime working in the financial sector, and just a lifetime of living.

    My main financial driver is to make the most of the money that I have to enjoy life now and to prepare for an early retirement in about 3 years time.

    However, I often see the the phrase 'it's not exactly MSE', usually deployed when someone spends some money.

    After further research I'm led to believe that being MSE involves

    Wasting the banks time to open multiple bank accounts which you never use, to get benefits worth a negligible amount each month.

    Obsessing over your credit score.

    Trying to think up ways you might have been mis sold any financial product in the last 30 years, in order to get compensation, and failing, because you weren't mis sold at all.

    Being apologetic about spending anything on something that isn't a complete necessity for survival, even if you can afford it.

    If that's what 'being MSE' is all about, then I'm so not MSE!


    What do you feel is 'being MSE' ?
    Different things for different people, but being financially savvy covers it for me. Getting free advice from knowledgeable people helps too.
    Good luck with your early retirement, you will either have too much money or not enough, but at least you wont be in the rat race.
  • JimmyTheWig
    JimmyTheWig Posts: 12,199 Forumite
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    Goldiegirl wrote: »
    What do you feel is 'being MSE' ?
    It just means being MoneySaving.
    So having a takeaway when you could have cooked at home isn't very MSE. The money spent could have been put to better use paying off debts / building up an emergency fund / paying into a pension / paying off mortgage / etc.
    See Martin's Money Mantras (http://blog.moneysavingexpert.com/2010/10/12/money-mantras-never-leave-home-without-them/).
    It sounds like you aren't skint, so the big question when buying something is "Is it worth it?". The question is "is it worth getting a takeaway, or would I rather cook now and bring my retirement forward by two hours?".
    If there is no better use for that money than a takeaway (or whatever it is you are buying that some think isn't MSE) then that _is_ MSE. If there is any better use then, technically, is isn't MSE.
  • Goldiegirl
    Goldiegirl Posts: 8,805 Forumite
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    As bringing home fish and chips from time to time is one of my simple pleasures in life, the amount of enjoyment makes it a great use of the money and very MSE !
    Early retired - 18th December 2014
    If your dreams don't scare you, they're not big enough
  • Goldiegirl wrote: »
    As bringing home fish and chips from time to time is one of my simple pleasures in life, the amount of enjoyment makes it a great use of the money and very MSE !
    Fish & chips isnt MSE you can do it cheaper at home.

    If you can afford to consider a Beefeater (YUK) fish and chips is MSE, but not as MSE as cooking at home IYSWIM.
  • JimmyTheWig
    JimmyTheWig Posts: 12,199 Forumite
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    Fish & chips isnt MSE you can do it cheaper at home.
    But it's not the same if you do it at home.

    The mantra says "Have I checked if it's cheaper anywhere else?". If the fish and chips the OP buys from the chip shop is the same as the fish and chips she could cook at home for cheaper then it wouldn't be MSE to get it from the chip shop.
    But if it's not the same then you can't say it's not MSE for not going for the cheaper option.

    It would only be not MSE not going for the cheaper option if the increase in price wasn't worth it. I.e. what would the OP do with the spare money if they went for the cheaper option? Would _that_ give as much value to the OP as the fish and chips from the shop?
    From what the OP has said, the answer is no. Which, for the OP, makes fish and chips from the chip shop the MSE choice for the OP from time to time.
  • UKGuy
    UKGuy Posts: 15,571 Forumite
    All I know is home-made fish and chips are cheaper and taste better than fish and chip shop fish and chips for me! ;)
  • But it's not the same if you do it at home.

    The mantra says "Have I checked if it's cheaper anywhere else?". If the fish and chips the OP buys from the chip shop is the same as the fish and chips she could cook at home for cheaper then it wouldn't be MSE to get it from the chip shop.
    But if it's not the same then you can't say it's not MSE for not going for the cheaper option.

    It would only be not MSE not going for the cheaper option if the increase in price wasn't worth it. I.e. what would the OP do with the spare money if they went for the cheaper option? Would _that_ give as much value to the OP as the fish and chips from the shop?
    From what the OP has said, the answer is no. Which, for the OP, makes fish and chips from the chip shop the MSE choice for the OP from time to time.
    My home made are better ! :tongue:
  • fluffnutter
    fluffnutter Posts: 23,179 Forumite
    ... and occasionally showing one's norks.

    Yours are constantly on show, Edmund.
    "Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell" - Edward Abbey.
  • Yours are constantly on show, Edmund.


    Yes... in the vain hope that others will reciprocate.
    I enjoy a pint of beer each night for it's health benefits. The other pints are for my witty comebacks and flawless dance moves.
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    Being MSE = lustily shopping around for best value regardless of the impact on workers and then later in political mode pretending you want workers tret fairly.
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