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    • rbulph
    • By rbulph 28th Feb 07, 11:14 AM
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    Could anyone have interfered with your bags since you packed them?
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    • 28th Feb 07, 11:14 AM
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    Could anyone have interfered with your bags since you packed them? 28th Feb 07 at 11:14 AM
    I don't understand what the above question (that we all get asked when checking in for a flight) is about.

    Suppose your flight home is in the evening. You have to check out of your hotel by midday, so you leave your luggage in the hotel's storage room while you go out for lunch before the transfer to the airport. In this case you have to answer "yes" to the question at check-in, because someone could have interfered with your luggage while it was in the storage room. What happens then? Does the check-in person say "Oh, how interesting!" and check your luggage in regardless? Or do you have to repack your luggage in front of them to check there's nothing dangerous in it? If this is the case, how come I have never seen anyone do this?

    I just don't get it. Can someone please explain?
    Last edited by rbulph; 28-02-2007 at 11:41 AM.
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  • dmg24
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    • 28th Feb 07, 11:21 AM
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    • 28th Feb 07, 11:21 AM
    I think everybody just says no, but yes, they should ask you to repack your case.

    Once as a teenager travelling alone, I answered that 'Actually my uncle used the camera after me'. They immediately took me aside and checked it over (took the film out too!).

    Had a concerning experience last week. Was at the boarding gate queueing up to board, when the person behind me had 'accidentally' picked up my bag (our bags were completely different?). I laughed it off at the time, but he could have put anything in there, and I wouldn't have known until I got stopped at the other end!
    • rbulph
    • By rbulph 28th Feb 07, 11:31 AM
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    • 28th Feb 07, 11:31 AM
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    • 28th Feb 07, 11:31 AM
    I think everybody just says no
    by dmg24
    So this aspect of airport security is a complete farce.
  • dmg24
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    • 28th Feb 07, 11:50 AM
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    • 28th Feb 07, 11:50 AM
    Yep!

    But I suppose they have to ask just to say that they have!
  • movieman
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    • 28th Feb 07, 1:07 PM
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    • 28th Feb 07, 1:07 PM
    So this aspect of airport security is a complete farce.
    Most of 'airport security' is a farce, so they can say they're 'doing something' even when that 'something' is actively detrimental to real security. Read Bruce Schneier's articles on 'security theater', for example.

    And I'm sure even the airline staff know that 99.999% of people always say 'no' to the questions regardless.
    • zfrl
    • By zfrl 28th Feb 07, 1:16 PM
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    • 28th Feb 07, 1:16 PM
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    • 28th Feb 07, 1:16 PM
    If you say no & they decide to search it then you will probably be liable if something is found - so if you suspect anyone may have tampered with your bag it would be worth saying "Not sure". I imagine this might be important if you are flying out of some countries where drug trafficing is a major problem.

    "You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." Winston Churchill

    • samanthag
    • By samanthag 28th Feb 07, 2:37 PM
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    • 28th Feb 07, 2:37 PM
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    • 28th Feb 07, 2:37 PM
    my 14 year old son was frisked at the airport a fortnight ago at paris cdg
    iwas with my other son and my eldest was with my husband i was waiting in the departure lounge when i saw them do it.
    i was appalled that they can do this to a child are they allowed to do it to minors?
    my son is 6 foot tall but that shouldnt excuse him being frisked he was really quite shook up about it.
    has anybody else had this happen to their kids?
    regards sammy
  • moonrakerz
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    • 28th Feb 07, 3:19 PM
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    • 28th Feb 07, 3:19 PM
    Some while back my mother went to Tasmania. She had a 3 hour wait in Melbourne for the connecting flight, rather than risk a much shorter connection time. She arrived in Melbourne on time, had a leisurely shower and breakfast and caught her flight.
    As they stopped at their destination, she saw the baggage lorry drive up to the aircraft - with her bag already on it, having arrived on the earlier flight !

    So much for making sure that a passenger flies with their luggage.
  • Tallulah22
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    • 28th Feb 07, 5:27 PM
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    • 28th Feb 07, 5:27 PM
    samanthag i came home from Paris CDG on Monday night and they were seemingly frisking everyone. Another man had a huge arguement with the security which later ended up with the police being caught. They seem to be ruthless at that airport.
    • photome
    • By photome 28th Feb 07, 6:20 PM
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    my 14 year old son was frisked at the airport a fortnight ago at paris cdg
    iwas with my other son and my eldest was with my husband i was waiting in the departure lounge when i saw them do it.
    i was appalled that they can do this to a child are they allowed to do it to minors?
    my son is 6 foot tall but that shouldnt excuse him being frisked he was really quite shook up about it.
    has anybody else had this happen to their kids?
    regards sammy
    by samanthag

    Sorry but I dont understand your problem, I assume your 14 year old is your oldest son and that he was with your husband and if he had nothing to hide surely no problem. If he wasnt with your husband why were you both letting him go through by himself?
    • Voyager2002
    • By Voyager2002 28th Feb 07, 6:23 PM
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    my 14 year old son was frisked at the airport a fortnight ago at paris cdg
    iwas with my other son and my eldest was with my husband i was waiting in the departure lounge when i saw them do it.
    i was appalled that they can do this to a child are they allowed to do it to minors?
    my son is 6 foot tall but that shouldnt excuse him being frisked he was really quite shook up about it.
    has anybody else had this happen to their kids?
    regards sammy
    by samanthag
    What's the big deal? Yes, my 14 year old son was frisked at Gatwick just ten days ago. The metal detector bleeped as he went through, so they just asked my permission and got on with it. He was fine, since of course he understands what it is for.
    • samanthag
    • By samanthag 28th Feb 07, 6:35 PM
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    they didnt ask permission they just did it he was with my husband but there were 2 people in front of my husband as they had just opened this booth as there was a long queue at the booth that we were all in and the security guards asked them all to go to the other booth .
    i didnt mind him being frisked i just didnt think that they were allowed to do it to a minor (my husband couldnt see him being frisked) i could because i was in the departure lounge but i couldnt leave my son as he has special needs
    they didnt ask my son how old he was or was he with anyone. the metal detector didnt bleep cause i asked my son and he was asked to take his belt and shoes of before he went through the bleeper machine
    i will know in future i will make sure that we dont get separated next time.
    regards sammy
  • lily the pink
    my 14 year old son was frisked at the airport a fortnight ago at paris cdg
    iwas with my other son and my eldest was with my husband i was waiting in the departure lounge when i saw them do it.
    i was appalled that they can do this to a child are they allowed to do it to minors?
    my son is 6 foot tall but that shouldnt excuse him being frisked he was really quite shook up about it.
    has anybody else had this happen to their kids?
    regards sammy
    by samanthag
    My 3 year old was frisked (very gently) when we went to Manchester a few months ago (from Heathrow). The bit he most objected to was taking off his shoes. My son though is one of those who jumps onto the dentist chair saying "my turn" so his compliance on this sort of thing wasnt an issue. It doesn't bother me as if I was going to take a stand on civil liberty issues, then being frisked at airports would be a long way down my list.
    • spender
    • By spender 28th Feb 07, 11:14 PM
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    Unfortunately in this day and age people do use children to carry things because they think they will not get stopped/searched. Just look at the news recently with 8 year olds carrying guns for the older gang members (under 10 in this country is below the age of criminal responsibility). It is a sad fact of life. I know it must of been distressing but maybe they thought he was older or maybe by using the airport you must somehow consent to being searched. I hope your son is OK.
    No Matter what you do there will be critics.
  • ynot2005
    having witnessed the public on several occasions "freak out " when confronted with simple security measures at airports, i have nothing but admiration for BAA security staff who manage to conduct themselves with dignity when a punch on the nose of the offending moron would have been quite acceptable to me
  • nelly
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    i was appalled that they can do this to a child are they allowed to do it to minors?
    by samanthag
    appalled at what exactly?
  • MommaCC
    appalled at what exactly?
    by nelly
    From how I read the op's post, she has no problem with the her son being frisked, but that, as he was a minor, the was no warning or conversation with the parent first.

    If this is what the op means, I agree totally. I have no problems with my children being frisked, but would want to know and be present when it happened. It would be the most sensible thing to do from the airport security staff side too - a witness to see exactly where your touching, I would want that protection.

    I wonder if, with your son being so tall, they did not realise he was a minor.
  • lauren2007
    Hi
    When we went on honeymoon last year and they asked if anyone could have had access to our bags since we packed them we said yes (the bags had been in our hotel room since the day before the wedding). The check in lady just said 'ok' and put them through anyway.
    • samanthag
    • By samanthag 1st Mar 07, 8:15 AM
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    From how I read the op's post, she has no problem with the her son being frisked, but that, as he was a minor, the was no warning or conversation with the parent first.

    If this is what the op means, I agree totally. I have no problems with my children being frisked, but would want to know and be present when it happened. It would be the most sensible thing to do from the airport security staff side too - a witness to see exactly where your touching, I would want that protection.

    I wonder if, with your son being so tall, they did not realise he was a minor.
    by MommaCC
    that is what i was trying to say
    thanks sammy
    • LesD
    • By LesD 1st Mar 07, 10:41 AM
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    Is this thread a wind-up??? The more security at airports the better as far as I am concerned. I certainly have no objections to any additional measures being taken to make my flight that little bit safer. Even if they are more psychological than real, we need them to keep air travel the safest form of travel. The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) in the U.S. has stated that your chances of being killed in a motorcar accident is 1 in 5,000. If you decide to travel by train, your risk of dying due to a train crash is reduced to around 1 in 400,000. In an airplane, it varies from 1 in 400,000 to 1 in 10,000,000 depending on the reputation of the airlines you are going to travel on.

    What I do complain about are the jobsworths on immigration who mainly stand around doing b****r all but put their hands in their pockets and chew gum - on the pretext that they are 'observing' people entering and leaving the country. That while the queues to get passports checked snake around the reception hall.
    Last edited by LesD; 01-03-2007 at 10:43 AM.
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