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    forgetso
    Moving a gas meter outside
    • #1
    • 19th Feb 12, 12:46 PM
    Moving a gas meter outside 19th Feb 12 at 12:46 PM
    Hi,

    I have recently been quoted 680 by SGN to move my meter from underneath the kitchen sink to outside.

    This seems like an absolutely insane amount and they won't even reconnect the pipes to the combi boiler inside (the guy who did the survey said this).

    Does anyone know if there's a cheaper way to get this done?

    I read here (http ://cfi.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5479) that any competent person (who is Gas Safe Registered) can move the gas meter as long as the control valve doesn't need to be moved.

    If I change gas suppliers can I get the meter moved for free?

    Thanks
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    • macman
    • By macman 19th Feb 12, 1:34 PM
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    • 19th Feb 12, 1:34 PM
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    • 19th Feb 12, 1:34 PM
    No,a GSR cannot move the meter. It's not your property.
    It's a captive market and the costs are always very high.
    They might change a meter for free-but they won't move it, that is far more work.
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  • forgetso
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    • 19th Feb 12, 1:57 PM
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    • 19th Feb 12, 1:57 PM
    Ok, looks like I am just going to have to stump up the cash. Thanks for the info.
    • lemontart
    • By lemontart 19th Feb 12, 2:34 PM
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    • #4
    • 19th Feb 12, 2:34 PM
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    • 19th Feb 12, 2:34 PM
    problem is the control valve is going to me moved as that is on the incoming pipe too
    I am responsible me, myself and I alone I am not the keeper others thoughts and words.
    • C_Mababejive
    • By C_Mababejive 19th Feb 12, 6:02 PM
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    • 19th Feb 12, 6:02 PM
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    • 19th Feb 12, 6:02 PM
    It may well be possible to retain the service,unaltered,haivng the ECV inside,but to resite the meter outside.
    Feudal Britain needs land reform. 70% of the land is "owned" by 1 % of the population and at least 50% is unregistered (inherited by landed gentry). Thats why your slave box costs so much..
    • chanz4
    • By chanz4 19th Feb 12, 7:15 PM
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    • 19th Feb 12, 7:15 PM
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    • 19th Feb 12, 7:15 PM
    It is possible, but would be capped if SGN was out on an emergency and found it. You cant have copped from the ecv to the inlet which is the only way of doing what you have suggested.
    Don't put your trust into an Experian score - it is not a number any bank will ever use & it is generally a waste of money to purchase it. They are also selling you insurance you dont need.
    • C_Mababejive
    • By C_Mababejive 19th Feb 12, 8:31 PM
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    • 19th Feb 12, 8:31 PM
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    • 19th Feb 12, 8:31 PM
    It is possible, but would be capped if SGN was out on an emergency and found it. You cant have copped from the ecv to the inlet which is the only way of doing what you have suggested.
    Originally posted by chanz4

    Yes it is possible to have a no flexible inlet from the ECV to the regulator inlet provided that such a pipe is marked as carrying gas (tape) and there is a label on the meter indicating the location of the ECV. It isnt that commonplace,but the regulations do allow it. The only issue might be that to be 100% correct,you should seek the permission of the MAM (meter asset manager) before working on their meter.

    A meter could easily be relocated for example,back to back from its existing position,in a standard outside meter box for a fraction of the cost of excavation/service alteration.
    Feudal Britain needs land reform. 70% of the land is "owned" by 1 % of the population and at least 50% is unregistered (inherited by landed gentry). Thats why your slave box costs so much..
    • chanz4
    • By chanz4 19th Feb 12, 9:10 PM
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    • 19th Feb 12, 9:10 PM
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    • 19th Feb 12, 9:10 PM
    Its the GT that you would need the permission from, the meter wouldnt need working on.
    Don't put your trust into an Experian score - it is not a number any bank will ever use & it is generally a waste of money to purchase it. They are also selling you insurance you dont need.
    • C_Mababejive
    • By C_Mababejive 19th Feb 12, 9:22 PM
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    • 19th Feb 12, 9:22 PM
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    • 19th Feb 12, 9:22 PM
    Its the GT that you would need the permission from, the meter wouldnt need working on.
    Originally posted by chanz4
    The GTs responsibility ends at the network termination point, i.e the ECV. Anything from the ECV to the meter outlet belongs to the MAM.
    Feudal Britain needs land reform. 70% of the land is "owned" by 1 % of the population and at least 50% is unregistered (inherited by landed gentry). Thats why your slave box costs so much..
  • gentlebloke
    No,a GSR cannot move the meter. It's not your property.
    It's a captive market and the costs are always very high.
    They might change a meter for free-but they won't move it, that is far more work.
    Originally posted by macman
    Wrong again....

    A GSR engineer CAN move the meter. The GT would be needed to move the ECV.
    • C_Mababejive
    • By C_Mababejive 27th Feb 12, 1:03 AM
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    C_Mababejive
    A GSR would need MET1 and the permission of the MAM.
    Feudal Britain needs land reform. 70% of the land is "owned" by 1 % of the population and at least 50% is unregistered (inherited by landed gentry). Thats why your slave box costs so much..
    • lemontart
    • By lemontart 27th Feb 12, 4:48 PM
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    lemontart
    for those who do not know MET1 is a the qualification and the licenced to do code you would need to see on their gas safe details in order for them to be permitted to touch the meter and the MAM is the meter asset manager who is responsible for the meter - you would have to speak to the gas supplier for them to sort out that permission.

    There are very few gas safe registered installers with this - www.gassaferegister.co.uk and I get the impression most would rather not get involved due to the red tape involved with such.
    I am responsible me, myself and I alone I am not the keeper others thoughts and words.
    • lemontart
    • By lemontart 27th Feb 12, 4:50 PM
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    lemontart
    Hi,
    .

    If I change gas suppliers can I get the meter moved for free?

    Thanks
    Originally posted by forgetso
    No is the simple answer this is a chargeable job regardless of who is your supplier as it is not them that do the work as it involves the incoming supply which is not theirs to touch.
    I am responsible me, myself and I alone I am not the keeper others thoughts and words.
  • trufflepig
    Hello Folks,

    Bumping this thread because I've a similar query & you chaps seem to know whats what. I would like to turn a gas fireplace back into an open fireplace but the gas meter several feet or stone away from it. How close is too close? Would I have to move the meter outside too?

    Many thanks

    TP
    • lemontart
    • By lemontart 6th Jul 12, 8:59 AM
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    Yes it is possible to have a no flexible inlet from the ECV to the regulator inlet provided that such a pipe is marked as carrying gas (tape) and there is a label on the meter indicating the location of the ECV. It isnt that commonplace,but the regulations do allow it. The only issue might be that to be 100% correct,you should seek the permission of the MAM (meter asset manager) before working on their meter.

    A meter could easily be relocated for example,back to back from its existing position,in a standard outside meter box for a fraction of the cost of excavation/service alteration.
    Originally posted by C_Mababejive
    if that happens gsi;s etc call it in for a check for safety........
    I am responsible me, myself and I alone I am not the keeper others thoughts and words.
  • jaygee80
    Hi and sorry to bring this up again!

    I am needing to move the gas meter from the internal wall of my house to the same wall but externally. Can I use a GasSafe engineer to do this or do I need to go to Northern Gas Network?

    Thanks to all that reply.
    • lemontart
    • By lemontart 26th Sep 12, 3:50 PM
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    You need to go to northern gasworks if that is your gas network as it would involve moving the emergency control valve
    I am responsible me, myself and I alone I am not the keeper others thoughts and words.
  • jaygee80
    You need to go to northern gasworks if that is your gas network as it would involve moving the emergency control valve
    Originally posted by lemontart
    And if the ECV stayed where it was but the meter was moved?
    • lemontart
    • By lemontart 26th Sep 12, 11:54 PM
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    lemontart
    And if the ECV stayed where it was but the meter was moved?
    Originally posted by jaygee80

    as already mentioned in the post there is a lot of red tape to go through i.e. permission from the gas supplier to allow someone other than the gas net work to touch the meter i,e move it - read through my earlier posts in this thread.
    I am responsible me, myself and I alone I am not the keeper others thoughts and words.
    • chanz4
    • By chanz4 27th Sep 12, 7:33 AM
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    as already mentioned in the post there is a lot of red tape to go through i.e. permission from the gas supplier to allow someone other than the gas net work to touch the meter i,e move it - read through my earlier posts in this thread.
    Originally posted by lemontart

    Which isnt going to happen
    Don't put your trust into an Experian score - it is not a number any bank will ever use & it is generally a waste of money to purchase it. They are also selling you insurance you dont need.
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