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    Mr Vincent
    Anybody Done LGV Training Recently?
    • #1
    • 25th Jan 07, 9:45 PM
    Anybody Done LGV Training Recently? 25th Jan 07 at 9:45 PM
    http://www.clear-stone.co.uk/

    Anybody used the above firm recently?
    These people tried to hard sell me their product after I filled in their on-line form out of curiousity and then tried to get my card details even if all I gave them was a small deposit.
    I refused as they were the first people I was approaching, even though they would guarantee me a job after I passed as they were a recruiting firm too.

    In my job I drive seven days a week using a marked Vauxhall Corsa company vehicle and a personal car for out of hours personal usage so I would describe myself as being highly experienced but it did take me 8 attempts to get my domestic so naturally these driving tests would make me nervous.

    I have contacted other LGV schools and spoken to some lorry drivers, most of whom are veterans. Most admit driving a lorry is not easy but I am still curious.
    Other schools break things down and make you do the work with their guidance something that would suit me nicely rather than splashing out 1000 and hoping for the best.

    More to the point I believe I should go part time with my entitlement to drive a 7.5 ton to gain experience before going for the bigger stuff.
    I hear now you need to apply for a separate licence to drive a 7.5 ton. Here's to another kind of hidden tax.

    Any ideas?
    I earn 20 000 through bonuses and overtime and have no travel expenses potentially saving me 2000 a year.
    My investment could increase my salary up to 25K.

    If you are angry about something, let it be known.......
    If I fail to thank you individually, I am sorry. Your advice was appreciated but may not have been 100% the result I was after.
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  • Quinny
    • #2
    • 26th Jan 07, 8:13 AM
    • #2
    • 26th Jan 07, 8:13 AM
    As a Class 1 HGV driver,I'll give you one piece of advice................

    DON'T DO IT.

    Unless you like long hours,being away from home,not being able to arrange anything because you don't know when your going to be back,being treated like a second class citizen by society,etc etc.

    Ken.
  • Mr Vincent
    • #3
    • 28th Jan 07, 10:11 PM
    • #3
    • 28th Jan 07, 10:11 PM
    Thanks for the advice Quinny.
    Actually I am pretty hardened to long working hours, love travelling distances (preferably at somebody else's expense ), what else?
    Society - they are suckers anyway!!
    Home predictability - give and take.

    What I am after right now is to aim for the C Class or HGV2 to you.
    Rules have changed since I last passes my driving test which took me 8 attempts.
    I will not be using Clearstones.

    What I'd like to know is whether or not agencies would take on somebody like me without the theory part and no experience of driving a 7.5 ton truck as my licence allows me to. I passed my test before Jan 97 and am aiming to make further enquiries.

    Plan as of now is to get medicals done and hopefully the theory unless I can land myself a part-time weekend job as a 7.5 tonner for general practice.
    I hear drivers are in demand.

    If you are angry about something, let it be known.......
    If I fail to thank you individually, I am sorry. Your advice was appreciated but may not have been 100% the result I was after.
  • Quinny
    • #4
    • 28th Jan 07, 10:21 PM
    • #4
    • 28th Jan 07, 10:21 PM
    For any agency to take you will need the class of licence,that you want to work with.As you passed your test before Jan 97,then your 7.5t licence will suffice.

    You won't however,be able to drive a larger vehicle,until you've passed the relevant test.

    Now the down side........

    There isn't a great demand for 7.5t drivers,via agencies.That's not to say that there aren't any agencies that do use them,it's just without a full LGV entitlement, (Class 1) you're limiting your saleability.

    And as for a demand for drivers in general,well,remember we have our Eastern European cousins that will do the job cheaper than home grown labour,so while this is the case,the demand is not as great as you think.

    As a Class 1 agency driver myself,I do a good job for my agency's customers,so I get asked for by name,which has kept me pretty busy in January,even though it is usually the quiet period until about March.

    Ken.
  • Mr Vincent
    • #5
    • 28th Jan 07, 11:00 PM
    • #5
    • 28th Jan 07, 11:00 PM
    A friend reminded me of the Yugoslavs that were due here soon due to EU legislature.

    Hmmm, you've just answered the questions I was going to ask two driving schools tomorrow - little hope if any for medium size lorry drivers (might still ask regardless).

    No rush as I have a job that involves lots of driving that I enjoy anyway - just want to see if I can fulfil my childhood dream b4 I get too old.

    Cheers.

    If you are angry about something, let it be known.......
    If I fail to thank you individually, I am sorry. Your advice was appreciated but may not have been 100% the result I was after.
  • mrbadexample
    • #6
    • 29th Jan 07, 5:58 PM
    • #6
    • 29th Jan 07, 5:58 PM

    More to the point I believe I should go part time with my entitlement to drive a 7.5 ton to gain experience before going for the bigger stuff.
    I hear now you need to apply for a separate licence to drive a 7.5 ton. Here's to another kind of hidden tax.
    by Mr Vincent
    Forget when you passed your test, it's not relevant. What's important is your entitlement. To drive a 7 tonne vehicle, you require class C1 on your licence. As long as you have that, you should be fine, and should be able to obtain work through an agency.
    If you lend someone a tenner and never see them again, it was probably worth it.
  • katieandscott
    • #7
    • 5th May 07, 12:13 PM
    • #7
    • 5th May 07, 12:13 PM
    hi i am in the same sort off boat! my dad is a lorry driver and has been for many many years. i have always wanted to do it to! right here's my problem i am 21years old have a bad credit score so i cannot seem to get any financial help. currently stuck in a dead end job earning £5.50 an hour which i need to support my two kids and girlfriend with. Help!! anyone!?!
  • Mr Vincent
    • #8
    • 6th May 07, 7:33 AM
    • #8
    • 6th May 07, 7:33 AM
    Different actually.........

    I don't have any lorry driving relatives.
    Yeah, you could say I have a dead end job too but it pays more than you.

    I am 34,
    single,
    live in rented accomodation.

    Apart from the children, you are in a better position than I am as far as I am concerned - that is if you and your father are like the best of friends as some families are not.

    It's the need to study for the damned thing that is killing me with me having so many other pursuits to distract me.
    I also do not drive large vehicles for work purposes.

    Looking for a fun way to motivate me.

    If you are angry about something, let it be known.......
    If I fail to thank you individually, I am sorry. Your advice was appreciated but may not have been 100% the result I was after.
  • katieandscott
    • #9
    • 6th May 07, 2:27 PM
    • #9
    • 6th May 07, 2:27 PM
    i don't really talk to my dad anymore had a falling out a while back but i remeber as a kid driving around europe in his truck. all i really wanna know is DOES ANY1 KNOW WHERE I CAN GET FINANCIAL HELP TOWARDS TAKING MY TESTS etc. cheers
  • katieandscott
    apparently not.
  • scbk
    If you're in scotland you can get up to 200 to do goods vehicle training, my brother did his test a few months back (cannae mind which category though)
  • christineculley86
    When I was doing the same kind of search I came across clear stone myself but I thought that it may not be the best selection because its the first on the search engines so I continued my search.

    I eventually came across Pathway HGV & LGV Training. It seems like a great company to go through and has a lot of feedback from recent people who used the company. The information itself seems great and would love to try it out, but want to know if anyone else has experience this company themselves.

    Hopefully you guys can give me some great feedback, and maybe presuaded others to take on this challenge with me!
  • Conor
    I eventually came across Pathway HGV & LGV Training. It seems like a great company to go through and has a lot of feedback from recent people who used the company. The information itself seems great and would love to try it out, but want to know if anyone else has experience this company themselves.

    Hopefully you guys can give me some great feedback, and maybe presuaded others to take on this challenge with me!
    Originally posted by christineculley86
    From their website..
    • You’ll get real Job Security: One of the few jobs left where life long Job Security is a reality.
    • You can earn a High Income: As a qualified driver you can take home £420-£600 a WEEK. You’ll quickly change your lifestyle and start enjoying the good things in life.
    • You can retire early: You may be able to retire early and in comfort with a secure pension.
    • You’ll enjoy company perks: you’ll benefit from a great company pension scheme, up to 25 days holiday per year, medical insurance and lots more.
    • Freedom at work: As an LGV driver you will enjoy flexible hours. You can work where you want and when you want, evenings, weekends, nine to five, it’s your call.
    • Excellent career progression: You’ll enjoy a career not just a job. With increasing experience you can take your career to more senior and higher paid positions. Its your choice!
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA

    What a crock of rubbish.
    High income my !!!. £600 take home - yeah if you do a 74 hour week with 5 nights out.
    Where are these companies that offer pension and medical?
    Freedom at work? Riiiight. You can work where and when you want? Another crock of rubbish. I have yet to ever come across a single 9-5 HGV driving job. No such thing exists.
    Career progression? I've been in it 15 years. There is no career progression. There's driver and then there's non driving jobs in the traffic office.

    Post on trucknet about Pathways and see what they tell you.
  • Conor
    Lorry driving sucks big style. It's getting worse year on year. They keep changing the rules and the traffic keeps getting worse and it's now at the point where you need to set off at 4am to get anywhere.
    There's nowhere to park up on a night because the truckstops are closing down and the motorway services keep reducing the size of the HGV parks.

    Just remember that once you've done a couple of years, you can forget getting any job outside of haulage because you'll be tarred with the "thicko" brush that we all are thanks to Joe Publics perception of us.
  • gilbert and sullivan
    I have to agree with everything you say Conor, and i've been doing it for 30 and a few years.

    There are one or two companies that pay well, reimburse for medicals/digicards etc, and i'm lucky enough to work for one (car transporters), BUT its dead mans shoes i'm afraid and i had near on 20 years of exactly what you have said before being in the right place at the right time.
    And i still work very hard for the money, which is very good but you dont earn big bucks sitting in the cafe (if you can find one), and it will probably all end very soon anyway when johnny foreigner has reduced the wage potential to bare minimum (on that subject when will the people of this country wake up).

    Your dead right about the general attitiude to us though, and for the last 30 years, when filling in official forms that need your social status (note how people who work for a living come last, no change there then) i have been crossing out all the possibilities and have written across every one ''scum of the earth lorry driver'', stupid i know but them i'm a realist like you.
  • Jzinsky
    Just remember that once you've done a couple of years, you can forget getting any job outside of haulage because you'll be tarred with the "thicko" brush that we all are thanks to Joe Publics perception of us.
    Originally posted by Conor
    Do any job for a couple of years and you can forget about getting a job outside that area. This week an agency tried to press some catering work on me because it was on my CV, 8 years ago.

    Financial help doesn't appear to exist to anyone who's actually trying to better themselves only those who want to do nothing. Me and my girlfriend are claiming a few thousand a year in tax credits, but try and get some help to get a job that would pay enough to not need that money off the government and no-one knows
  • Wig
    When you apply for a LGV provisional, do you have to send off your old paper car licence, and do they then send you a new photo licence which includes car and provisional LGV, or do you get a photocard purely for the LGV provisional seperate from your car licence? Just wondering if I will get a shiny new car licence as my old paper one is past its best.


    The theory for the LGV costs about 35 quid, How do you study for it? - just buy a book or are there courses? Do you have to have an LGV provisional before you take the theory?


    How long does an LGV provisional last? What are the consequences of say not passing your LGV practical within 2 years?

    I see that clearstone has gone out of business, and all they did apparently was to refer you to a local training school - well I can do that myself thanks and by the sounds of it save myself £400 by doing it myself.

    Pathway, does not say on its website where you will do your training, so it sounds like just another referring agent to a local school near you.
    Last edited by Wig; 23-07-2008 at 12:36 PM.
  • Conor
    Yes, you have to send off your paper licence. LGV and car licences have been combined for decades now.
    You study for the theory test the same way you do for a car one. The better schools have materials you can loan.
    Provisional lasts until you need your next medical so its dependent on your age. I've still got my Cat D provisional that I got with my HGV provisional application 18 years ago and it lasts until 2014.
  • banger9365
    first off you have to do a medical for the licence at the doctors it cost money befor you can apply for the provisional and that lasts until your 45 and then a medical again every 5 years until you pack in work or unfit to drive a hgv and i think i changes when your 65 to every year.
    put the laws are changing again in 2009 ?put us lot that already have it get grandfather rights until 2014

    and there no guarantee that they will let you have a LGV provisional licence aswell ,a m8 of mine was touch and go when he applyed because he has drink driving on his car licnece and it took months for them to decided where he could has one or not and he had to go and see the traffic commissioner too (scary)put i do not think it's common and it was over ten years ago
    Last edited by banger9365; 23-07-2008 at 6:22 PM.
    there or their,one day i might us the right one ,until then tuff


  • ianjnr
    When you apply for a LGV provisional, do you have to send off your old paper car licence, and do they then send you a new photo licence which includes car and provisional LGV, or do you get a photocard purely for the LGV provisional seperate from your car licence? Just wondering if I will get a shiny new car licence as my old paper one is past its best.


    The theory for the LGV costs about 35 quid, How do you study for it? - just buy a book or are there courses? Do you have to have an LGV provisional before you take the theory?


    How long does an LGV provisional last? What are the consequences of say not passing your LGV practical within 2 years?

    I see that clearstone has gone out of business, and all they did apparently was to refer you to a local training school - well I can do that myself thanks and by the sounds of it save myself 400 by doing it myself.

    Pathway, does not say on its website where you will do your training, so it sounds like just another referring agent to a local school near you.
    Originally posted by Wig
    i have just done my training with pathway and yes it was with a local training school perth hgv i did both class 2 and class 1 with them they are really good well happy passed both first time pathway sorted every thing out for me theory test book cd rom all over the phone no hard sale just some one that answered all my questions you will pay more using companys like this but it does make it easy if you stay near perth scotland i would use perth hgv they are good it's there company they put the efort in so you pass first time i had never driven a lorry before they made it relaxed and fun along with being safe you need the 4 days training test on day 5 if your not near perth pathway is good i was happy with the service i got cheers ianjnr
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