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    jogary
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    Ryanair Hold Baggage
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    • 25th Jul 11, 12:56 PM
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    Ryanair Hold Baggage 25th Jul 11 at 12:56 PM
    Travelling to Spain this Summer with Ryanair and was planning to not give any extra cash to Mr O'Leary by taking hand luggage only.

    However, as I've just got back into golf, thought I'd take a cheap half set of clubs out with me to leave at my house in Spain. Ryanair charge £40 one-way for sport equipment, but I'd still be in pocket given the price of golf clubs in Spain.

    Hang on though, what's this - the box that my golf clubs came in is actually slightly smaller than the maximum dimensions for hold baggage as published on Ryanair's website - 81cms (height), 119cms (width) and 119cms (depth), and weighs less than 15kg, so if I just put this in the hold as normal baggage then I only have to pay £20 !!

    Obviously I don't want to turn up at the airport and Ryanair refuse this as normal baggage, so is there any reason why they may do this? I've looked at their terms and conditions and none of the following statements seem to apply, but then I'm a reasonable person and I know that being reasonable often doesn't apply to some employees of Mr. O'Leary!

    8.3 ITEMS UNACCEPTABLE AS BAGGAGE
    8.3.1 You must not include in your Baggage:
    8.3.1.1 items which are likely to endanger the aircraft or persons or property on board the aircraft, as more particularly set out in Article 8.10 below;
    8.3.1.2 items the carriage of which is prohibited by the applicable laws, regulations or orders of any state to be flown from or to;
    8.3.1.3 items which are reasonably considered by us to be unsuitable for carriage because they are dangerous, unsafe or by reason of their weight, size, shape or character, or which are fragile or perishable having regard to, among other things, the type of aircraft being used;

    The box in question would be approx. 117cm x 30 x 30.

    I've seen plenty of boxes appearing on the baggage carousels at airports before, but I wanted to find out the views of other Moneysaving Experts before deciding.
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    • richardw
    • By richardw 25th Jul 11, 1:12 PM
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    richardw
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    • 25th Jul 11, 1:12 PM
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    • 25th Jul 11, 1:12 PM
    More about Sports Equipment http://www.ryanair.com/en/questions/can-i-bring-my-sports-equipment-or-bike
  • jogary
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    • 25th Jul 11, 1:16 PM
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    • 25th Jul 11, 1:16 PM
    Calling them was my next port of call; just wanted to see if anyone else had any experience of this before paying £10/min to ring their Customer 'Service' dept.

    In my experience it is Ryanair employees on the check-in desks, not airport staff - at least at EMA anyway.
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    • By antenna 25th Jul 11, 1:28 PM
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    antenna
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    • 25th Jul 11, 1:28 PM
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    • 25th Jul 11, 1:28 PM
    If you are only taking hold luggage one way then you will need to book your return flight seperatley as you cant book luggage one way on a return booking.......this was news to me last week!
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  • jogary
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    • 25th Jul 11, 1:44 PM
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    • 25th Jul 11, 1:44 PM
    Luckily I have seperate bookings for outward/inward flights so only have one-way fees to pay.

    The sports equipment description given on their website is all well and good, but nowhere does it say that sports equipment has to be booked as such and the appropriate fees paid (unless it's over the normal bagge size). I just want to take the cheapest option, and that is putting a box in the hold that just happens to be sports equipment.
    • richardw
    • By richardw 25th Jul 11, 1:50 PM
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    richardw
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    • 25th Jul 11, 1:50 PM
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    • 25th Jul 11, 1:50 PM
    from http://www.ryanair.com/en/terms-and-conditions

    "8.2 EXCESS BAGGAGE AND CARRIAGE OF CERTAIN ITEMS

    You will be required to pay a charge for the carriage of Checked Baggage in excess of your personal Checked Baggage allowance and for any sports equipment..."

    which could be read as

    "You will be required to pay a charge for the carriage of ......... any sports equipment"

    or may mean

    "You will be required to pay a charge for the carriage of sports equipment in excess of your personal Checked Baggage allowance"
    Last edited by richardw; 25-07-2011 at 1:57 PM.
  • Falafely
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    • 25th Jul 11, 2:09 PM
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    • 25th Jul 11, 2:09 PM
    I thought I could get away with taking my saxophone as hand luggage, but I ended up having to pay 40 quid. Think it's something to do with insurance :-S
  • laurel7172
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    • 25th Jul 11, 2:23 PM
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    • 25th Jul 11, 2:23 PM
    I booked return flights-then decided I needed a bag on the way back, and I added it with no problem. So it's probably better to book your return flights at the price on screen and then go in and change the booking later, iyswim.
    • NJW69
    • By NJW69 25th Jul 11, 2:24 PM
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    Can you not wrap them so you can't tell what they are?
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    • Hobsons Choice
    • By Hobsons Choice 26th Jul 11, 9:05 PM
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    Hobsons Choice
    Probably irrelevant, but just to remind you that if you're flying from EMA, you can buy a good size carrier bag from WH Smith and use it on Ryanair in addition to your cabin luggage.
    • budgetflyer
    • By budgetflyer 27th Jul 11, 12:13 AM
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    budgetflyer
    Probably irrelevant, but just to remind you that if you're flying from EMA, you can buy a good size carrier bag from WH Smith and use it on Ryanair in addition to your cabin luggage.
    Originally posted by Hobsons Choice
    Not according to Ryanair T&Cs you can't.

    All items including any airside shopping have to fit within your hand luggage.

    Whether they enforce it at EMA is another matter, but they are very strict at a lot of other UK and foreign airports
    • spiro
    • By spiro 27th Jul 11, 7:43 AM
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    Can you not wrap them so you can't tell what they are?
    Originally posted by NJW69
    Agree, wrap the box in brown paper & tape, that or spend £10 on a cheap large holdall/bag.
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    • stoneman
    • By stoneman 27th Jul 11, 9:21 AM
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    Probably irrelevant, but just to remind you that if you're flying from EMA, you can buy a good size carrier bag from WH Smith and use it on Ryanair in addition to your cabin luggage.
    Originally posted by Hobsons Choice
    No you can not. We have traveled with them 3 times now from EMA and they are very hot on the gate about the one bag rule. They will make you put whatever you have in addition to your cabin bag (handbag, duty free, etc.) into it before you reach the dreaded "cage", it had better fit in or you ain't flying with it in the cabin.
    BTW they actually let us carry on a pillow as well as the roll along because we saw a couple of girls get away with this on a previous trip.
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    • Hobsons Choice
    • By Hobsons Choice 27th Jul 11, 7:39 PM
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    Hobsons Choice
    No you can not. We have traveled with them 3 times now from EMA and they are very hot on the gate about the one bag rule. They will make you put whatever you have in addition to your cabin bag (handbag, duty free, etc.) into it before you reach the dreaded "cage", it had better fit in or you ain't flying with it in the cabin.
    BTW they actually let us carry on a pillow as well as the roll along because we saw a couple of girls get away with this on a previous trip.
    Originally posted by stoneman
    I agree - You ALWAYS have to put everything into your cabin case, handbags and ... well... just EVERYTHING.
    However, we flew from EMA on 4th July this year to Tallinn in Estonia. Husband went to buy a newspaper (airside) and I was amazed (and annoyed) when he came back with an 8p rather large carrier bag. Was about to launch into him when he showed me the notice outside WH Smith saying that these bags were allowed in addition to cabin luggage on Ryanair. We went through (me with everything crossed) without any problems. There were also people with Boots carrier bags that had the same deal.
    Now, this (as far as I know) was only applicable from EMA and I don't even know whether the offer is still on, but July 4th wasn't long ago!
    Just trying to be helpful.
    • spiro
    • By spiro 28th Jul 11, 6:27 AM
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    spiro
    I agree - You ALWAYS have to put everything into your cabin case, handbags and ... well... just EVERYTHING.
    However, we flew from EMA on 4th July this year to Tallinn in Estonia. Husband went to buy a newspaper (airside) and I was amazed (and annoyed) when he came back with an 8p rather large carrier bag. Was about to launch into him when he showed me the notice outside WH Smith saying that these bags were allowed in addition to cabin luggage on Ryanair. We went through (me with everything crossed) without any problems. There were also people with Boots carrier bags that had the same deal.
    Now, this (as far as I know) was only applicable from EMA and I don't even know whether the offer is still on, but July 4th wasn't long ago!
    Just trying to be helpful.
    Originally posted by Hobsons Choice
    My guess is that the one bag rule has hit airside sales and that the airport have done a deal with the airline. Maybe it will spread to other airports.
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    • By 2010 28th Jul 11, 7:20 AM
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    2010
    You usually find that people who have trouble with RA bring it on themselves by not reading the T&Cs, which they said, by ticking the T&Cs box, they had.

    RA are running a business not a nursery.
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