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    SaitenMar
    ESA and Dental Care!
    • #1
    • 13th May 11, 11:52 AM
    ESA and Dental Care! 13th May 11 at 11:52 AM
    Hello,

    I am in need of some help and advice, hoping that you might be able to clear up a worry I have. I currently receive Employment and Support Allowance and have a dental appointment next week. I've tried to contact a benefits shop for the past two days without any luck (always busy, due to having one phone) and I am unable to get down their without help from my family (I have rheumatoid arthritis and struggle to walk, that and my grandfather as recently had a stroke so the family have barely been available for understandable reasons). So this seemed the next best place for help.

    Next week I have a dental appointment and was recently told that it's possible to get dental check-ups free when your on employment and support allowance. Is this true? And if so what is required of me to confirm that I am receiving this benefit to the dental practice?

    One other small thing, my rheumatologist told me at my last appointment that I need to have eye tests again at an opticians. I'm guessing that these are not covered in anyway, but some clarification would be welcomed.

    Thank you, your help is much appreciated.
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    • rogerblack
    • By rogerblack 13th May 11, 1:13 PM
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    rogerblack
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    • 13th May 11, 1:13 PM
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    • 13th May 11, 1:13 PM
    Hello,

    I am in need of some help and advice, hoping that you might be able to clear up a worry I have. I currently receive Employment and Support Allowance and have a dental appointment next week
    Originally posted by SaitenMar
    If you are on income-related employment and support allowance, dental treatment is free.
    (within what the NHS covers).
    Similarly, some opticians offer free eye tests - I got one at specsavers - and am entitled to help with glasses costs too.
    Contributory ESA does not entitle you to help.
    Though you may be entitled due to low income.
    • CouponWoman
    • By CouponWoman 13th May 11, 1:26 PM
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    CouponWoman
    • #3
    • 13th May 11, 1:26 PM
    • #3
    • 13th May 11, 1:26 PM
    Hello,

    I am in need of some help and advice, hoping that you might be able to clear up a worry I have. I currently receive Employment and Support Allowance and have a dental appointment next week. I've tried to contact a benefits shop for the past two days without any luck (always busy, due to having one phone) and I am unable to get down their without help from my family (I have rheumatoid arthritis and struggle to walk, that and my grandfather as recently had a stroke so the family have barely been available for understandable reasons). So this seemed the next best place for help.

    Next week I have a dental appointment and was recently told that it's possible to get dental check-ups free when your on employment and support allowance. Is this true? And if so what is required of me to confirm that I am receiving this benefit to the dental practice?

    One other small thing, my rheumatologist told me at my last appointment that I need to have eye tests again at an opticians. I'm guessing that these are not covered in anyway, but some clarification would be welcomed.

    Thank you, your help is much appreciated.
    Originally posted by SaitenMar
    Free dental check ups and treatment etc are only free to people on income based esa, this is similar to income support as its purely based on your income.

    Contribution based esa is based on national insurance contributions and has no income related part to it therefore you cannot automatically get free health benefits.

    You would need to get a form from the chemist and complete it and see if you can qualify. To get free health benefits you would need to have completed the form and got a certificate of entitlment before your dental appointment.

    Best check your entitlement to see if you qualify first.
  • SaitenMar
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    • 13th May 11, 3:38 PM
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    • 13th May 11, 3:38 PM
    Thanks for the quick replies. I'm finding this all so confusing!

    I rang up the dentist and got an helpful assistant who explained that all I need to bring is prove that I'm receiving the benefit. As in a letter or other form of prove. She wasn't at all sure about a certificate of sorts and said that they simply need prove. That said I believe a form as to be signed at the time by me.

    I suspect I'm worrying about all this more then I should be, and it's probably pretty simple.

    Thanks for your help.
  • yappycat
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    • 13th May 11, 3:47 PM
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    • 13th May 11, 3:47 PM
    Be careful here, you must be getting Income Based ESA to qualify for free NHS dental treatment (and make sure it is NHS, private treatment is not covered). If it is later found that you claimed free treatment and you're actually receiving Contributions Based ESA then it will be you who is liable NOT the dental practice.
    From working for the NHS BSA I know that a lot of dental practice staff are not really clued up on the differences in entitlement income and contribution based benefits afford.
    First check with your benefits agency on which type of ESA you are getting, if you can't get in touch with them go back through your old paperwork, it should say on your benefit notification letter which type you get.
    • 50Twuncle
    • By 50Twuncle 15th May 11, 10:44 AM
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    50Twuncle
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    • 15th May 11, 10:44 AM
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    • 15th May 11, 10:44 AM
    If you had been working and claiming WTC - this would have entitled you to free dental treatment

    This - I have always thought is wrong - since not only does the recipient gain from WTC but also free treatment...
  • nad1611
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    • 15th May 11, 11:12 AM
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    • 15th May 11, 11:12 AM
    If you had been working and claiming WTC - this would have entitled you to free dental treatment
    Originally posted by 21Twinkle
    Receiving WTC doesn't automatically entitle you to Free Dental Treatment. Your income needs to be below about £15500 pa and your name is on a valid tax credit exemption certificate, they would send you this cerificate automatically.
    In regard to ESA yes only the Income Based Allowance would apply and you should be able to see that on your Award Notice. As said don't go by what your Dental Assistant says as they don't always know.
  • MrsManda
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    • 15th May 11, 11:21 AM
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    • 15th May 11, 11:21 AM
    As nad said, if you're claiming tax credits and are eligible for help with health costs on that basis you will have been sent an exemption certificate automatically.
    http://www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/1040.aspx

    If you are on certain income assessed benefits, including Income Based ESA then you'll also qualify for free dental
    http://www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/HealthCosts/1976.aspx

    Otherwise it'll depend on whether you are eligible under the NHS low income scheme
    http://www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/1125.aspx

    or qualify under the maternity rules
    http://www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/1039.aspx
  • Ellie2758
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    • 3rd May 12, 5:16 PM
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    • 3rd May 12, 5:16 PM
    Please can somebody tell me whether the position on this has altered since a year ago? Is it still income-based ESA only that qualifies one for Free Eye test and free dental treatment? Both opticians and dental practices seem at odds with this. Some say yes, some say no. Nightmare one doesnt need with everything else to contend with!!
    Ellie

    "man is born free but everywhere he is in chains"
    J-J Rousseau
  • mynameistallulah
    Please can somebody tell me whether the position on this has altered since a year ago? Is it still income-based ESA only that qualifies one for Free Eye test and free dental treatment? Both opticians and dental practices seem at odds with this. Some say yes, some say no. Nightmare one doesnt need with everything else to contend with!!
    Originally posted by Ellie2758
    That is correct - income based ESA qualifies for free NHS treatment, conts based does not.
  • cit_k
    Its odd how income based ESA gives free dental - but income based IB does not, unfortunate to as I have a load of dental work coming up..
  • mynameistallulah
    Its odd how income based ESA gives free dental - but income based IB does not, unfortunate to as I have a load of dental work coming up..
    Originally posted by cit_k
    Income based Incapacity would refer to IB with an IS top up, there are no means tested premiums on Incapacity. IS would entitle you to free healthcare.
  • spikeripley
    Thanks for the quick replies. I'm finding this all so confusing!

    I rang up the dentist and got an helpful assistant who explained that all I need to bring is prove that I'm receiving the benefit. As in a letter or other form of prove. She wasn't at all sure about a certificate of sorts and said that they simply need prove. That said I believe a form as to be signed at the time by me.

    I suspect I'm worrying about all this more then I should be, and it's probably pretty simple.

    Thanks for your help.
    Originally posted by SaitenMar

    If your on Income Based ESA you dont need to supply any documents just tick the box saying so or they will when they ask you if you pay for your treatment you dont need to prove it at the time. If you get prescriptions from the docs free you due to ESA you will also get dental and eye tests.
    • schrodie
    • By schrodie 4th May 12, 9:35 AM
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    schrodie
    Its odd how income based ESA gives free dental - but income based IB does not, unfortunate to as I have a load of dental work coming up..
    Originally posted by cit_k
    It was the same with [the old]Incapacity Benefit & Income Support Based on Disability and Income Based JSA & Contribution Based JSA. All paid the same but IB and CB JSA are not means tested ergo any extra household income was supposed to pay for your dental care (and extra prescriptions and eye tests). You could get the above free if you passed a means test but IB and CB JSA don't automatically qualify you to free dental care etc.
  • Ellie2758
    Thanks all. I finally managed to get dentist to read her form properly and it does indeed say that Income-based ESA qualifies for free treatment. She hadnt read down far enough. Mind you, my own dentist receptionist reckoned that ALL ESA qualified for free treatment. If those in charge of the services dont understand what chance have we?!
    Ellie

    "man is born free but everywhere he is in chains"
    J-J Rousseau
  • Broke n Broken
    Prescription charges-found a link http://www.nhs.uk/nhsengland/healthc...me-scheme.aspx

    For ANYONE on a low income.
    Free prescriptions, help with travel costs, useful links etc
    HTH
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  • makumgav
    Free dental treatment or NOT
    I went to my local dentist to have a cap put back on which dropped off, when asked if I was working I told the lady "No as I had just had a kidney transplant 6 week prior and was on benefits", I was given an appointment for the following week, she told me to bring any letter I may have to prove the benefits I am on, I took a letter down and she had a quick glance and confirmed that I was entitled to FREE dental treatment.
    Now 2 month later the dental body have come back to me and said i am not entitled to free treatment and they want me to pay up,
    Surley this is the problem of the dental practise as they said that i was entitled.......shouldn't they bear the cost ????
    Also I have a card which entitles me to free prescriptions does this not also entitle me to free dental ????
    So ANGRY cos i could of gone to my local dental hospital and had it done free of charge
    • HB58
    • By HB58 18th Nov 13, 9:36 PM
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    HB58
    Many of the staff at dental practices do not understand the difference between income-related and contributary ESA. The claimant is supposed to know better and it is the claimant that is expected to pay up if they wrongly claimed free treatment.

    I think there are different levels of help awarded due to low income, ranging from just free prescriptions. Again, it is the claimant that is expected to learn the rules and pay up if they claimed something to which they are not entitled.
    • McKneff
    • By McKneff 18th Nov 13, 9:50 PM
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    McKneff
    I don't know how you dug this up. The original post is 2 1/2 years old, legislation has probably changed dramatically since then. Makumgav, I suggest you start a new thread of your own.
    No one can make you feel inferior without your consent
  • Horseunderwater
    Legislation re the free dental treatment has not changed at all.
    You only get it free if on an income related benefit and these are normally income support; Income related ESA (wrag/Support group) and Income based JSA. However if on WTC you may get a percentage of the fees paid or even all of it. Dependant on income level. And you may also get help if your income is low, but you have to apply for that via Form HC1 and you have to prove your income. Full help arrives with an HC2 card and partial help with an HC3. If you do not meet any of these terms then alas you have to pay up. There are other qualifications as well and those can be found by googling NHS dental charges.
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