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Divergence Profit System - Streetwise Marketing
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delta73
Old 21-04-2004, 1:55 AM
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Default Divergence Profit System - Streetwise Marketing

Hi,

I have this sales letter from Streetwise offering the DiVergence Profit System written by Oliver Goehler. It seems ok, has a 90 day refund guarantee.

I've been on Streetwise's website and some guy bigs it up on there. Obviously he probably works for them.

Has anybody purchased this system? It looks a bit suspect, but with a 90 day refund guarantee (no questions asked) it does lean towards being half decent.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 07-05-2004, 3:01 PM
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I've just received guff from Streetwise about this one - did you try it?
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Old 07-05-2004, 4:36 PM
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No, not yet. I am tempted tho'. Although about 18 months ago I returned a 50 product back to Streetwise under one of their 'No quibble' guarantees, and only got a 50 credit note.

On the streetwise site people on the forum do speak highly of it.

I was hoping somebody on here has it, or heard of it. I'm sure it has something to do with placing adverts in papers and internet selling info products.

I wait in hope!
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Old 08-05-2004, 2:46 AM
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I returned a 50 product back to Streetwise under one of their 'No quibble' guarantees, and only got a 50 credit note.
That's enough to put me right off

I had the impression it was more of a tips manual for exploiting ebay or the like. Since I've never dared use ebay (coward that I am) thought maybe I should look at a guide for dummies - but not if no quibble means credit note for any of their other rubbish :'(.

I too got the impression that the guy on Streetwise forum was a plant from the company.

Still they do send their get-rich schemes in good quality plain envelopes which are excellent for recycling ;D

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Old 11-05-2004, 4:58 AM
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You can get manuals for selling on ebay for a tenner or less. Look in Amazon.
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Old 22-05-2004, 10:37 AM
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I've bought things from Streetwise, but nearly always sent them back. I've always got my money back, though I had to wait several weeks once.

Their copywriting's very good, but the products not so good. One of their great moneymakong ideas was to hire out a bouncy castle on the weekends! Great.

Oliver Goehler makes a good income from buying and selling in online auctions.

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ne...ld_future.html

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,5-2004232257,00.html

Click on the links for 2 articles about him.

I haven't bought the divergence system, so can't comment about it. I presume it's about using ebay - there are full instructions about using ebay on ebay! Free!
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Old 22-05-2004, 7:03 PM
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If you want a good guide to eBay.co.uk, being published next week, that only costs 9.99, try
http://books.global-investor.com/books/19434.htm

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Old 26-05-2004, 2:26 PM
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I bought the Divergence Profit System and yes read it and just gives you ideas, nothing that you couldn't find in the dummies guide to selling on ebay book. Just tells you about his niche in selling rare marketing books. Then I the mug I am fell for it again and got a letter saying that he would teach you exactly how to make money with a Family Secrets Package for 300
Well it just follows on, I'm not saying its complete ripoff cause there are some ideas in there, but not worth the money and not sadly going to earn you much. You need that importnat niche is all it says and still don't know what that is lol. This package however doesn't have a gaurantee so feel abit dissapointed with it, still thats me mug till the day I die.

Streetwise do send you money back on most of their products though, shame they don't for the family secrets pack.
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Old 12-06-2004, 4:58 AM
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What!? Send off another 300 for more info, sounds like a ripoff. Surely they should give u all the info in the original pack(to make money)!
Thanks for warning us,S Bower.
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Old 12-06-2004, 5:01 AM
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Does the Divergence system tell u where to obtain the rare books from (at a cheap price) ?
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Old 17-06-2004, 12:39 PM
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Just to tell you had been rather hasty in my judgement of the Family Secrets package as actually I didn't really give it a fair go and was quite surprised to how many of what I thought were pie in the sky ideas do actually work, yes the package does show you were to obtain books cheap from various of Olivers sources, he also tell you about other niches and does give you some product niches that has potential and that not many ebayers have caught on to yet.
So I apologise for looking on this prematurely and jumping to the conclusion that it wasn't worth the money, that the type of person I am , very impatient, the package does take some reading over a few times to take it all in.

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Old 17-06-2004, 3:14 PM
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Does oliver reveal any of his book sources in the basic manual or do you have to shell out for the family secrets package?
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Old 17-06-2004, 6:50 PM
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I received the profit divergence stuff a few months ago and it is much better than the usual tripe i get sent through the door. It does not just tell you how to use ebay, but how to use it to your advantage & make real money, which nothing else ive ever seen does, including "how to use ebay" books. I was pretty good ebayer before, but looking back, I didnt have a clue about making the green!
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Old 18-06-2004, 1:44 PM
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Sounds too good to be true, Then the old rule applies "if it sounds to goo to be true then it usually is".
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Old 18-06-2004, 2:59 PM
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I bought this a few months ago. I have to say that I thought the people on the Streetwise site were plants, but I've actually spoken to one of them and he's 100% genuine.

The manual itself is excellent, and I've made about 800 quid from one of the ideas in there on Ebay. Don't know about the Family Secrets thing. I didn't bother ordering it because the Divergence manual seems to tell you what you need to know. After reading earler comments though, maybe I should reconsider. 330 quid though
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Old 28-06-2004, 1:47 AM
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I have been scammed by Streetwise last year to the sum of 999 for an Arb Alert scheme.
Tried complaining-no joy.
Trading Standards-no joy
Credit Card-no joy.

Tried posting warnings about this scam on their forum and everyone was deleted within 15 minutes by the moderator.

Be Warned about his lot-do NOT give them any money.
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Old 03-07-2004, 11:15 AM
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I've had a couple of refunds from them in the past. So even though the quality and viability varies a lot, they seem honest to me.
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Old 04-07-2004, 12:30 PM
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I've bought from Streetwise in the past and went online, to see what others thought of the product I'd just bought.

Everytime somebody slagged them off, a new posting would show that they really were genuine, up-front and honest.

Someone on the forum noticed that the IP addresses for more than one of the "Members" were the same and discovered that the favourable comments were in fact being posted by John Harrison of Streetwise under assumed identities???

It wouldn't surprise me if, Streetwise scour the Internet for forums that discuss their products and rubbish the bad comments that are made about them.

See what happens after this comment is posted??
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Old 07-07-2004, 12:29 PM
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I don't know how much of that is true about John Harrison posting in forums, but I have bought a few things in the past and always got a refund for products I didn't think were any good, the thing with Streetwise is, the products they have for sale are not their own products but come from various people who have written business opportunities etc. So yeah there's plenty of crap they sell sure but its finding out, doing a little research before hand and usually theres a refund option to decide weather or not to see what the opp is like.

Yeah remember if it sounds to good its usually crap. The Oliver Goehler package though is one of the genuine packages and its not some get rich quick crap its actually just a little inside knowledge into how to make money on ebay, you'll never become a millionaire but you may earn a decent bit of extra money or a full time wage if you read it right and follow what he say's.

And no I'm not John Harrison lol.

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Old 09-07-2004, 8:37 PM
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OK, I've looked at the manual and I don't think there's much of a viable business here, unless you can come up with one of Oliver's niche markets. Which turns out to be quite a tall order. And as for being able to make hundreds of pounds for a few minutes work: what rubbish. I've spent three days solid looking for divergences and found nothing. Diddley-squat.

He does give a few good tips, but you could probably get something similar on the internet for free or at least a lot cheaper in an 'idiots guide'.
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