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    harry58
    mobile carer - petrol allowance help
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    • 19th Aug 06, 6:41 PM
    mobile carer - petrol allowance help 19th Aug 06 at 6:41 PM
    Hi, i am starting a new job on monday as a mobile carer.I was informed at my interview that i could claim back petrol allowance as i would be doing about 40 miles per day(5 days a week).This claim used to be off the company i am about to work for but its now changed as a claim via the goverment.I didnt pressure too much at the interview as to how to claim and how much could be claimed as i was just happy to get the job, but i believe it is around 25p a mile.Does anybody have a similar job or have any knowledge about this.I appeciate claims may varie from each company,but as its a goverment claim i thought it may be a bit more of a standard sort of rate of claim back.Anyway sorry to bore you but i would appreciate any help.Many thanks
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  • Gemmzie
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    • 19th Aug 06, 7:33 PM
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    • 19th Aug 06, 7:33 PM
    I work for a county council and they pay 35p and my mum's company is a charity and they pay 42p so I'd say somewhere around there.
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  • harry58
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    • 19th Aug 06, 8:56 PM
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    • 19th Aug 06, 8:56 PM
    Thanks for your reply gemmzie.I was wondering more as to how you claim.Is it at the end of tax year? And how do you tend to keep a record of mileage (bang on accurate) or do you get a bit of leeway as in a couple of mile here and there, how would it be checked.Should have been more clear in first post sorry about that.Thanks again
  • livinginhope
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    • 19th Aug 06, 9:04 PM
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    • 19th Aug 06, 9:04 PM
    Hi harry58,you put in a claim at the end of the year to the tax office,can't remember the form number but your employer will tell you,or give it to you.You can get 40p/mile paid back from the tax you have paid,you can also claim for shoes,washing of uniforms and anything else needed for work like torches.Oh I nearly forgot you can also put in claims for MOTs/tyres/repairs,good luck with the job,it's something you either love or hate,but give it time before you decide which it is
    • donnalove
    • By donnalove 19th Aug 06, 10:19 PM
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    donnalove
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    • 19th Aug 06, 10:19 PM
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    • 19th Aug 06, 10:19 PM
    the rates the inland revenue set are 40p for the first 10000 miles then 25p for all milage over.If you go over 10000 at 40p there is tax to pay.
    this rate would cover all the running costs of the car so you would not be able to put in seperate claim for mot/repairs etc.

    donnalove
    xx
  • Gemmzie
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    • 19th Aug 06, 10:21 PM
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    • 19th Aug 06, 10:21 PM
    I'm given an official looking form, have to enclose one reciept a month for petrol (for VAT purposes).

    Mileage is recorded on there, so it's quite accurately done.
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    • MarkyMarkD
    • By MarkyMarkD 19th Aug 06, 10:24 PM
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    • 19th Aug 06, 10:24 PM
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    • 19th Aug 06, 10:24 PM
    Harry

    I'm not sure if a few things are getting confused here.

    Your employer should pay you a mileage allowance, which can be any rate they choose to set.

    Then, over and above that, you can claim the difference between the amount you are paid, and the official Inland Revenue rates, as a taxable expense - which means you get 22% of it (or 40% if you were so lucky).

    The Inland Revenue tax deduction isn't a substitute for the employer paying you something - if they are making out that's all you'll get that's ridiculous.

    40p x 22% is only 8.8p per mile which is not even enough to cover petrol (or diesel for that matter).

    Mobile care employers might likely pay you about 15p a mile and expect you to claim back tax on 25p which is around 6p at 22%, so in total you'd be effectively getting 21p a mile which is slightly less bad (but still far short of the total costs of running a decent car).
  • harry58
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    • 20th Aug 06, 1:05 PM
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    • 20th Aug 06, 1:05 PM
    Thanks for all the replys.The company i start with tommorow just said i claim back at the end of tax year no mention of as to how i keep a log file of my miles,this is were i am confused as to how i keep a record do i just count each day and keep record.I would of thought it would need to be signed each day or something simaler.They also said they wont contribute anything themselves towards this,they said they used to but dont now as it was being abused.They have gave me a uniform which i have to wash every day myself and after 3 months they will give me another.I have to buy my own
    appropriate trousers and shoes to which they specify.I have my rota for next week and i reckon i will do about 100 mile a week on average.Im allowed 5mins to get to next visit anymore than that i lose pay.
  • Igiveup
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    • 26th Aug 06, 1:05 AM
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    • 26th Aug 06, 1:05 AM
    HI

    Hope you enjoy the job, I've been doing it for years for an agency

    My agency pays 20p a mile and the allowance is 40p from the government

    So at the end of the tax year, I ring my tax office and ask for a self assesment form and just fill in the relevent bits, (they send you the right ones)

    They want to know how much you've been paid for milage over the year, so you do need to record yours, although I have estimated mine a lot!

    I have a uniform which I wash myself and there is a £45 allowance for this.
    Some tax helplines say there isn't but there is!!
    Fill it in on the form

    I do mine online it's easier
  • BenD
    Shirts
    I am PAYE but use my own car for business use.
    I get 15p per mile.
    So I can claim back the tax up2 40p (22% of)?
    How do I prove this to on the form as I give my milage and receipts to my employer?

    Any1 got a link to the 'form'?

    Also does this mean I can claim back for my work stuff like shirts?
    Wud I need proof of purchase for these?

    Thanks for ur help ppl
    Last edited by BenD; 15-05-2007 at 2:30 PM.
  • monkeyboydylan
    carer petrol allowance
    I am becoming a mobile carer next week but i can nto find any info about petrol allowance, my company only pays 20p per mile, how can i claim the rest - IS THERE A HELPLINE PHONE NUMBER - WHO DO I CALL PLS???
  • real1314
    I am PAYE but use my own car for business use.
    I get 15p per mile.
    So I can claim back the tax up2 40p (22% of)?
    How do I prove this to on the form as I give my milage and receipts to my employer?

    Any1 got a link to the 'form'?

    Also does this mean I can claim back for my work stuff like shirts?
    Wud I need proof of purchase for these?

    Thanks for ur help ppl
    Originally posted by BenD
    For a record of your mileage, just use the details on your wage slip (if that's where it's shown) as a record.
    Revenue have a form to claim it back, fill it in and send copies of the wage slips.
  • Conor
    The form you need to complete is a P87. You claim at 40p per mile for the first 10,000 miles then 25p per mile after that. If your employer pays you mileage, you claim for the balance, i.e if they pay you 20p per mile, you claim 20p per mile on the P87.
    • donnalove
    • By donnalove 16th Jul 08, 1:53 AM
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    donnalove
    heres hoping that mr brown increases the rates as with increase in petrol we as voluntry workers and u as carers are making a loss
  • Conor
    I don't see that happening seeing as it's basically remained the same for a decade.
  • real1314
    Hmm, maybe someone needs to point out that it is in effect a stealth tax increase??
  • dave25152626
    Hi there,
    I need help!!

    Last year in April 2007, i started working for a caring agency, which was community work.

    The company informed me that they do not pay for expences, such as mobile phone bills and petrol and are accurred during working, and that in April will claim it back via the tax man and all expenses would be returned to us in full.

    I was travelling to various town, and doing lots of mile each day in my car. If anything happened we were contracted to ring the supervisors to inform them.

    I left for Maternity Leave in November 2007, and my expenses totalled nearly £900.

    I sent off the form to the tax man to get my money back for all my expences, however i then recieved a letter back from them stating that as i paid no tax in 2006/2007 that i would not be recieving any of this money back?!?

    Is this right? I paid for that petrol and them phone bills out of my pocket.

    Should the company itself not have to pay towards it or something, it disgusting that i was paid £6 an hour, yet i probably spent more than half of this on petrol.

    Can i do anything now?
  • RachG11
    Hi there, I too in a similar situation with tax! I'm a full time student working in the summer holidays, and as a result I do not have to pay tax below around £7400 (I will earn nowhere near that). The company does not have a petrol allowance full stop, and so I would be fully reliant upon claiming it back via the p87. I doubt very much I will get anything as I am not paying any tax, only NI. Anyone know any more info, or is it a case of pay it out of my own pocket and that is that..?
    Thanks
  • Healthcarer60
    I started working for a private healthcare company who pay me 17 pence per mile, but I have not paid any tax due to only working about 20 hours per week.
    If you dont pay tax then you can not get a tax rebate to cover your expences its unfair but thats the way it goes.
    If you do get a tax rebate it can either be a lump sum or you pay less tax the following year.
    There are a lot of company's who do pay mileage allowance so I would ask these questions at your job interviews.
    Last edited by Healthcarer60; 13-09-2012 at 3:45 PM.
    • meemo38
    • By meemo38 4th Sep 12, 4:41 PM
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    meemo38
    I have had an interview today and was told if i got the job i would get 15p per mile......that's rubbish considering the price of diesel, although she did say they try to keep you in the same area so less travelling.
    I will only be part time so wont be paying tax either so cannot claim the extra back
    And i thought another company who pay 20p was bad!!!!
    Also i have been told the checks they do will cost just over £60, is this the norm as i have only ever seen it state £44??
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