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    Grolsch30
    Does a downstairs bathroom increase value of your property
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    • 1st Feb 10, 10:07 PM
    Does a downstairs bathroom increase value of your property 1st Feb 10 at 10:07 PM
    Hi,

    Does a downstairs Toilet increase the value of a property?

    If so would estate agents just add on standard percentage increase to the value of the property, like say a standard 5% increase in value of property box ticked.
    Or would it be based on how good the size/fixtures/fittings/ how good the Toilet/ washbasin/ tiles downstairs looks and then adds on whatever the estate agent feels.
    Or does it not realy matter to the value of the house if there was an extra Toilet or not.

    The reason I ask is that i am hoping it will increase the value of my property as I am paying to have a downstairs toilet fitted (costing me a small fortune!), with the outlook to put my 3 bed semi on the market in a few months.
    Last edited by Grolsch30; 01-02-2010 at 10:31 PM. Reason: Did not make the thread clear enough meant downstairs toilet not bathroom
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    • Fire Fox
    • By Fire Fox 1st Feb 10, 10:14 PM
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    • 1st Feb 10, 10:14 PM
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    • 1st Feb 10, 10:14 PM
    Does a downstairs bathroom increase the value of the property compared to what? No bathroom at all, instead of an upstairs bathroom or in addition to an upstairs bathroom? Where is the downstairs bathroom sited, is it convenient and work well with the layout of the property? Do you even mean a downstairs 'bathroom' i.e. a room containing a bath?
    What a difference a day makes, twenty four little hours.
  • CloudCuckooLand
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    • 1st Feb 10, 10:21 PM
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    • 1st Feb 10, 10:21 PM
    A second 'facility' is a good selling point. Its 'worth' will depend on the buyers' preferences.

    Some might prefer an en-suite, rather than downstairs.
  • BitterAndTwisted
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    • 1st Feb 10, 10:22 PM
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    • 1st Feb 10, 10:22 PM
    I think they mean a downstairs cloaks i.e. lav

    In a family house a downstairs lavatory will be a selling-point especially if the upstairs bathroom includes the only other lavatory.

    Adding value? Maybe, depends on what space has been lost to install the additional lav.

    If you're tootling around in the kitchen it's much more "convenient" to pop next door to use the facilities but not if your dinner-guests in the living-room can clearly hear you tinkle
    Last edited by BitterAndTwisted; 01-02-2010 at 10:25 PM.
    • getmore4less
    • By getmore4less 1st Feb 10, 10:25 PM
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    • 1st Feb 10, 10:25 PM
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    • 1st Feb 10, 10:25 PM
    what will it actualy be

    bathroom
    shower room
    cloakroom
    toilet room

    where is it in relation to the rest of the downtairs rooms.
    Last edited by getmore4less; 01-02-2010 at 10:29 PM.
    • SailorSam
    • By SailorSam 1st Feb 10, 10:27 PM
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    • 1st Feb 10, 10:27 PM
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    • 1st Feb 10, 10:27 PM
    I can't see many people paying extra for a house with the bathroom downstairs.
    If that's the only one in the house and you need to 'go' in the middle of the night, it would put me off the house.

    I have a second loo downstairs, is that what you meant, i'm sure that's looked upon as a bonus to any potential buyers.
    Now that i'm what you could describe as an older person i've stopped eating health foods.
    I need all the preservatives i can get.

  • Grolsch30
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    • 1st Feb 10, 10:29 PM
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    • 1st Feb 10, 10:29 PM
    I have a bathroom upstairs with shower and bath, it's a 3 bed semi and its home to me the wife and our 2 year old son.

    I probably did not explain myself correctly, We are fitting a downstairs toilet to complement the bathroom upstairs.
    We have the space and room available but we just wondered whether it would have a positive impact for when we come to sell or whether it does not make any difference to a valueation.

    Thanks Fire Fox I shall edit my posting to make it clearer.
    • SailorSam
    • By SailorSam 1st Feb 10, 10:35 PM
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    • 1st Feb 10, 10:35 PM
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    • 1st Feb 10, 10:35 PM
    If you're tootling around in the kitchen it's much more "convenient" to pop next door to use the facilities but not if your dinner-guests in the living-room can clearly hear you tinkle
    Originally posted by BitterAndTwisted
    Some new build houses that were built by me had a second loo downstairs, but it was under the stairs, and the stairs were in the lounge.
    Can you imagine coming home from the pub with friends of a Saturday night after drinking Guinness and eating a curry.
    Your guests would hear more than a tinkle.
    Now that i'm what you could describe as an older person i've stopped eating health foods.
    I need all the preservatives i can get.

    • greenface
    • By greenface 1st Feb 10, 10:35 PM
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    • 1st Feb 10, 10:35 PM
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    • 1st Feb 10, 10:35 PM
    second loo is normally better than no second loo but it depends whats lost to create the space. Often its the understairs or small cupboard next to the front door. This year i have taken away our downstairs loo (more like a outhouse) and bricked up and knocked down walls to make a decent utility room cost about a grand. Not sure if increase its value but it would sell better IMO and looks much better
    North Wales Holiday Home Owner
  • BitterAndTwisted
    Hehe. I think for a serious bit of that kind of numero dos the upstairs bathroom would be a must, nay compulsory
  • Hopejack
    If your house is a 'family semi' and it sounds like it is, then while a downstairs wc might not attract a premium price tag (or add much more value), it would certainly tick the boxes of more families than a house that didn't have one - perhaps meaning you might get an offer quicker if you do have one. Downstairs wc's and young children go much better together than running upstairs with them all the time!

    ETA - really not sure downstairs second bathrooms i.e. full kit, attract any more value?? It's not something I'd look for - as another poster says, if you are going for another bathroom, I think it's better to make the master ensuite if the space permitted.
    Last edited by Hopejack; 01-02-2010 at 10:46 PM.
  • gemini24
    If you have a 3 bed semi then I will assume you already have an upstairs bathroom.

    A second bathroom downstairs will probably not increase the value but a downstairs cloakroom could do so slightly as long as it is in a sensible, easily accessible place and not in an understairs cupboard where you have to be under 3' 6" and a size zero to be able to use it.

    If you have room downstairs to put in a bathroom, it would be preferable to make it a playroom, family den or some such additional living area.
  • Grolsch30
    Thanks for all of your responses,

    I suppose it is a bonus to prospective buyers and yes ultimately it would be up to the buyer to decide whether it my house would be worth whatever the asking price would be down the line.

    But say I had just a bathroom upstairs with toilet and shower. The estate agent came and valued my house for 100k (for arguments sake).

    Now If that estate agent came and valued my house with the extra toilet downstairs would he automatically tick an extra box and then get a better valuation say an extra 5k or so?
  • Grolsch30
    If you have a 3 bed semi then I will assume you already have an upstairs bathroom.

    A second bathroom downstairs will probably not increase the value but a downstairs cloakroom could do so slightly as long as it is in a sensible, easily accessible place and not in an understairs cupboard where you have to be under 3' 6" and a size zero to be able to use it.

    If you have room downstairs to put in a bathroom, it would be preferable to make it a playroom, family den or some such additional living area.
    Originally posted by gemini24

    A good sized cloakroom I would say.
  • Hopejack
    Why don't you ring an estate agent and ask them hypothetically? I had plans of changing the layout of my house a few years back and rang some agents to ask them what they thought it would add value wise.... It's worth a go.
    • pramsay13
    • By pramsay13 1st Feb 10, 10:48 PM
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    pramsay13
    Now If that estate agent came and valued my house with the extra toilet downstairs would he automatically tick an extra box and then get a better valuation say an extra 5k or so?
    Originally posted by Grolsch30
    No he would just pick a number out of thin air in the hope that you ask him to sell it for you and then drop his price because it's not selling.

    Seriously though I don't think it quite as prescriptive as that. I think they will look at overall size, layout, fittings, location etc and give you an overall price.
  • gemini24
    Forget the 5K. If you and your neighbour had your houses for sale and each was in identical condition to the other but yours had the downstairs loo and theirs didn't, yours would be first choice if priced identically.

    If your house was 5K more, dependent on the purchaser and their requirements, you may not be favourite.
    • Fire Fox
    • By Fire Fox 1st Feb 10, 10:51 PM
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    Fire Fox
    If you have a three bedroom semi with a toilet and shower then your plumbing budget needs to be spent on fitting a bath not a second toilet - see the other thread on this exact subject. As others have alluded to no a second toilet does not automatically confer a 5K prize, in fact it could lose you money or buyers if it is poorly located.
    What a difference a day makes, twenty four little hours.
  • SUESMITH
    might not increase the value but it would increase the sellability but i wouldn't even look at your houseif it didnt have a bath, as with a family that's vital
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