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    Stormy
    Ants vs Borax
    • #1
    • 3rd Jun 06, 5:30 PM
    Ants vs Borax 3rd Jun 06 at 5:30 PM
    Hi,

    Reading in a few other threads Borax was recommended for killing Ant's and giving their nest a Very Bad Day[tm].

    I got some today and mixed it in warm water and sugar with a 1:10 mix, 1 teaspoon of Borax to 10 teaspoons of sugar, it was nice and gluey in consistancy, and I put loads of blobs down on the Ant runs where they come upto my house. They loved the sugar solution, litrally 100's of them all over the place sucking it up.

    My question is, was my mix strong enough to do the nest some damage? What is the best mix to do maximum mayhem to the nest (which I can't find else I would boiling water it).

    Cheers,

    Mike
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    • Mr Meanie
    • By Mr Meanie 3rd Jun 06, 5:46 PM
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    • 3rd Jun 06, 5:46 PM
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    • 3rd Jun 06, 5:46 PM
    Mixture sounds about right, the idea is that the worker ants take it back to the nest to use for food for other ants, if its too strong they will be dead before they make it back home.
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  • Stormy
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    • 3rd Jun 06, 5:53 PM
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    • 3rd Jun 06, 5:53 PM
    Cheers, I will re-treat tomorrow and see how it goes. I did notice some of the worker Ants running around at warp speed about 5 hours after the first dose. I kinda hope that means the nest is in trouble and they are working overtime as in the morning they were more sluggish. Its probably they are more active later in the afternoon, so maybe wishfull thinking.
  • C_Ronaldo
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    • 3rd Jun 06, 5:54 PM
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    • 3rd Jun 06, 5:54 PM
    where can you buy borax from
  • Stormy
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    • 3rd Jun 06, 5:59 PM
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    • 3rd Jun 06, 5:59 PM
    I got mine from Ebay, was £3.25 (inc p&p) buy it now, for 300gs. Just do a search on there for household borax.

    Hope this helps,

    Mike
  • C_Ronaldo
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    • 3rd Jun 06, 6:02 PM
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    • 3rd Jun 06, 6:02 PM
    thanks, im always looking at ways of getting rid of the ants
    • Mr Meanie
    • By Mr Meanie 3rd Jun 06, 6:17 PM
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    • 3rd Jun 06, 6:17 PM
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    • 3rd Jun 06, 6:17 PM
    where can you buy borax from
    Our local £1 shop sells it, about £1 a box as I remember!
    But I must admit its only a small box, about 100 grams.
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  • oibaldy
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    • 7th Jun 06, 10:31 PM
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    • 7th Jun 06, 10:31 PM
    I'm must've made my solutions too strong in the past! I always found that mixing Vimto with borax would kill them where I put the solution down, so they never took it back to their nests. Must try a weaker solution as I've tried just about every powder and potion on the market.

    Has anyone tried the sonic insect repellants on ants? Wondered if they were any good as they are quite expensive, but worth paying if it gets rid of them for good.
    • Steve_xx
    • By Steve_xx 7th Jun 06, 11:46 PM
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    Steve_xx
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    • 7th Jun 06, 11:46 PM
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    • 7th Jun 06, 11:46 PM
    Leave them alone. What harm are they doing to you? Why is it that people are obsessed with killing creatures that go about their business without causing any real or lasting harm to humans? Why not put a pot of jam outside and then they'll go in there instead of the house, maybe.

    These tiny creatures are part of an ecosystem that is not meant to be interfered with en-masse in the ways that have been described here.
    • perc
    • By perc 8th Jun 06, 5:17 AM
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    perc
    Leave them alone. What harm are they doing to you? Why is it that people are obsessed with killing creatures that go about their business without causing any real or lasting harm to humans? Why not put a pot of jam outside and then they'll go in there instead of the house, maybe.

    These tiny creatures are part of an ecosystem that is not meant to be interfered with en-masse in the ways that have been described here.
    by Steve_xx
    Because they take over a garden if left unchecked and ruin my daughters enjoyment of it.
  • Stormy
    I'm must've made my solutions too strong in the past! .
    by oibaldy
    Yeh, I have the same problem. It is really hard to see how effective the Borax is being. It seems to be reducing numbers but I can't be certain. Wish I could find the bloody nests. I have tried a 1:10 mixture Borax:Sugar and a 1:1 Solution (then mixed with warm water to a syrup). The 1:10 solution seemed much tastier to the Ants as they swarmed all over it but I have no idea how effective at killing it was. The 1:1 solution seemed hardly to be touched but this was laid 3 days after the 1:10 mixture. Maybe its working, Maybe its not :confused:

    To Answer Steve, I don't actually mind a few Ants in the garden, but to be quite honest my back garden is just bloody infested at the moment. I have just bought this house and never in my life seen so many Garden Ants in one garden. Its a paved garden with boarders but seems to attract every insect (on mass) under the sun, I have hundreds of Ants, thousands of Predetory Running Mites and too many little Flies buzzing around. The garden is only 30~ feet by 12 feet!!!

    I want to be able to sit out on my patio and not have insects crawling all over my sandwiches :P
    • shelly
    • By shelly 8th Jun 06, 8:43 AM
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    shelly
    Iv'e always found that a trail of sugar from our house to the neighbours works a treat


    Seriously though. We had an infestation in our porch last year and used nothing more than ant killer from B&Q. They were all gone within 2 days.

    My cat likes watching ants, I often see her staring at a patch on the lawn and when I go to see whats caught her eye, its nothing more than a few ants
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  • paul_h
    The type of ant that tries to make a home in our garden will give you a very painful nip indeed! Any sign of children playing outdoors and they will emerge in force to fight off the intruders. They also seemed to particularly dislike me washing the dog...

    Anyone who lives on sandy soil will know how large and defensive these colonies can become.

    The borax mixture will work, but it does take a long time - you have to persevere and just keep putting it down. The best mixture is weak enough so as not to kill the ants quickly - you need them to feed it to the queen to make her sterile. About 1/3 borax to 2/3 icing sugar should work, mixed to a paste with a little water, but even your 10% mix should work eventually.

    You may find that the ants aren't interested - in that case try mixing the borax with peanut butter instead. Some types of ants are attracted to protein rather than sugar.

    One point however, UK law does not allow you to make up you your own insecticides as all chemicals have to be approved. However I would think your chances of being raided by the police for ant killer will be remote...
    Last edited by paul_h; 08-06-2006 at 9:28 AM.
    • Steve_xx
    • By Steve_xx 8th Jun 06, 9:51 AM
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    Steve_xx
    Because they take over a garden if left unchecked and ruin my daughters enjoyment of it.
    by perc
    They don't at all. They're there for a relatively short period and really don't cause any harm or damage to anything. They're there for a reason and you really shouldn't interfere too much with their process. Nobody ever heard of anyone being attacked and fatally injured by ants. Leave them be and they'll go sooner than you imagine. I can't ever imagine that I'll be reading in the papaers that your daughter/s have been killed by them.
  • AnnieH
    I have 3 little kids and so I'm wary of putting lethal concoctions of stuff down to kill ants.

    I put baby powder down in the garden and/or kitchen. They really don't like it. Don't know if it does them any harm but they soon do a disappearing act when I chuck it at them.

    • tim_n
    • By tim_n 8th Jun 06, 3:46 PM
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    tim_n
    recently we updated the orchids on our kitchen shelf - this being because my father, orchid enthusiast had claimed his latest victim!

    Unfortunately it seems there was a nest in the bottom and we found hundreds of ants the next morning searching the food... So down went the poison next to the bowl and the plant got new protein...
  • black-saturn
    Because they take over a garden if left unchecked and ruin my daughters enjoyment of it.
    by perc
    Your lucky yours are in the garden. I have an ants nest in the dining room of my house in the brickwork I've tried everything to get rid of them including borax, over the counter remedies, powders, poisons and you name it. I'm thinking I'll have to call pest control in and pay them to get rid of it.
  • sponix
    I use a product called "Armillatox" for killing ants.

    Mix about 5:1 with water. Stick a length of copper tube into the nest in the middle and place a funnel in the top.

    Pour the solution in until it's all absorbed by the nest. Be aware It'll kill the grass if you spill any!

    Repeat in a few days if the nest survives..

    (Armillatox is sold in garden centres as a patio cleaner. It was sold as a pesticide until the EU decided to ban it under some pesticides act.)
  • sponix
    Nobody ever heard of anyone being attacked and fatally injured by ants.
    by Steve_xx
    I did!

    http://www.amjmedsci.com/pt/re/ajms/abstract.00000441-200603000-00005.htm;jsessionid=GLCTJnHGpGWR1QHnMMXMFQ3pGpN0D 31KzW5GTyT1rQKCmlVLcZ4L!-818462210!-949856145!8091!-1
    • Steve_xx
    • By Steve_xx 8th Jun 06, 5:11 PM
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    Steve_xx

    Had to happen in America, of course!
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