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    • CCFC_80
    • By CCFC_80 4th Feb 09, 12:53 PM
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    Paying for your own CRB check
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    • 4th Feb 09, 12:53 PM
    Paying for your own CRB check 4th Feb 09 at 12:53 PM
    Just enquiring what people think regarding applying for a job vacancy and being asked to pay for the CRB check yourself if you are successful. The majority of vacancies advertise that the expense will be met by the employer.
    I personally think it is a bit of a cheek for any employer who requires a CRB check on their potential employee to ask for them to pay for it themselves.
    Although I am unemployed, I refuse to apply for any position on principal where you have to meet your own expense on a CRB check even though I am probably cutting off my nose to spite my face.
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  • livelyred
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    • 4th Feb 09, 1:34 PM
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    • 4th Feb 09, 1:34 PM
    Just enquiring what people think regarding applying for a job vacancy and being asked to pay for the CRB check yourself if you are successful. The majority of vacancies advertise that the expense will be met by the employer.
    I personally think it is a bit of a cheek for any employer who requires a CRB check on their potential employee to ask for them to pay for it themselves.
    Although I am unemployed, I refuse to apply for any position on principal where you have to meet your own expense on a CRB check even though I am probably cutting off my nose to spite my face.
    Originally posted by andy46
    I have just had to do a CRB check with the NHS they pay for this thou.
    • surreysaver
    • By surreysaver 4th Feb 09, 2:20 PM
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    • 4th Feb 09, 2:20 PM
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    • 4th Feb 09, 2:20 PM
    I can understand you being charged for a CRB check if you fail and you knew you would fail, but they shouldn't be charging you when it's a requirement that they have one done.
    I consider myself to be a male feminist. Is that allowed?
  • Caroline73
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    • 4th Feb 09, 3:52 PM
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    • 4th Feb 09, 3:52 PM
    I think that employer's should pay for a CRB check - it's not like it is valid anywhere else when it is done.
    Don't look at me, I'm irrelevant.
    • Bobl
    • By Bobl 4th Feb 09, 5:18 PM
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    • 4th Feb 09, 5:18 PM
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    • 4th Feb 09, 5:18 PM
    Just enquiring what people think regarding applying for a job vacancy and being asked to pay for the CRB check yourself if you are successful. The majority of vacancies advertise that the expense will be met by the employer.
    I personally think it is a bit of a cheek for any employer who requires a CRB check on their potential employee to ask for them to pay for it themselves.
    Although I am unemployed, I refuse to apply for any position on principal where you have to meet your own expense on a CRB check even though I am probably cutting off my nose to spite my face.
    Originally posted by andy46
    I take it you also do not claim benefits 'on principal'. I suppose the main point is how much do you want to go back to work.
  • lucid2008
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    • 4th Feb 09, 6:02 PM
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    • 4th Feb 09, 6:02 PM
    I think that employer's should pay for a CRB check - it's not like it is valid anywhere else when it is done.
    Originally posted by Caroline73
    It is valid at any other companies you may work for as well.
    • polgara
    • By polgara 4th Feb 09, 6:17 PM
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    • 4th Feb 09, 6:17 PM
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    • 4th Feb 09, 6:17 PM
    No its not! They are only valid for that employing organisation!!
  • lucid2008
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    • 4th Feb 09, 6:21 PM
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    • 4th Feb 09, 6:21 PM
    Sorry 2 companies i worked for since i had one said i did not need a new one and just looked at the original one.That was for work in the courier industry.
    • polgara
    • By polgara 4th Feb 09, 6:26 PM
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    • 4th Feb 09, 6:26 PM
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    • 4th Feb 09, 6:26 PM
    Ah - whilst some companies may accept an old CRB technically the check is not valid - ie if it was part of T&Cs that there was a valid CRB in place then this would not hold.

    Public sector orgs that require CRB (standard or enhanced) will insist on a new CRB.
  • Caroline73
    Sorry 2 companies i worked for since i had one said i did not need a new one and just looked at the original one.That was for work in the courier industry.
    Originally posted by lucid2008
    http://www.crb.gov.uk/Default.aspx?page=1870

    I'm referring to an enhanced CRB, I believe a standard on maybe ported. I assume a courier wouldn't need an enhanced one (or one at all really?:confused: )
    Don't look at me, I'm irrelevant.
    • LittleVoice
    • By LittleVoice 4th Feb 09, 7:16 PM
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    When one is to be an employee, the employer (local authority) has paid for CRB.

    When doing further education teaching (through an agency, not directly employed), I have had to pay for the CRB. This agency will now take the cost from the first monthly pay. It has to be renewed at least every 3 years with that agency even if the employing college is the one and only place one works.
  • GemmaE
    I work for the NHS and the only time you are asked to pay for your CRB is if you are in a 'bank' position. Due to the potential irregularity of the hours, our Trust insists that the employee pays for it themselves. This acts as a bit of a deterrent for those people who do not have any serious intention of working bank hours and also daves vital money for the NHS, which could otherwise be wasted.

    For full-time, part-time and other fixed term employees we always pay for the check. This includes any contractors or agency workers too, obviously volunteers are free anyway.

    Also, our rules state that a CRB check carried out within the last 6 months is acceptable to us, as long as it is enhanced. I think it depends on the companies rules as to what they will accept
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  • mvengemvenge
    Just enquiring what people think regarding applying for a job vacancy and being asked to pay for the CRB check yourself if you are successful. The majority of vacancies advertise that the expense will be met by the employer.
    I personally think it is a bit of a cheek for any employer who requires a CRB check on their potential employee to ask for them to pay for it themselves.
    Although I am unemployed, I refuse to apply for any position on principal where you have to meet your own expense on a CRB check even though I am probably cutting off my nose to spite my face.
    Originally posted by andy46
    It's possible to get a CRB voucher from your job centre which you could present to the employer and they can charge it back to the government.
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  • tallym
    It's possible to get a CRB voucher from your job centre which you could present to the employer and they can charge it back to the government.
    Originally posted by mvengemvenge
    mvengemvenge is correct: you can get a CRB voucher from the Jobcentre, BUT only if you are on one of the New Deal schemes. (i.e. age 18-24 unemployed 6+ months, or age 25+ unemployed 18+ months; but this is changing in April to 6+ months for all).
    • CCFC_80
    • By CCFC_80 4th Feb 09, 9:59 PM
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    I take it you also do not claim benefits 'on principal'. I suppose the main point is how much do you want to go back to work.
    Originally posted by Bobl
    Yes I do now claim JSA as I have been paying NI contributions for the past 30 years which I thought was like an insurance payment for when you become unemployed.
    As stated earlier I refuse to pay for my own CRB check and will not apply for vacancies that request this when it should be done by the employer
    • PurpleK8
    • By PurpleK8 4th Feb 09, 10:21 PM
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    hi andy,

    I think i'd be very cautious of an employer who requires staff to pay for their own crb's - any decent employer would surely want to invest in their staff, do they have high turn over of employees or something? (I've had quite a few done because I work with children and I've never paid for one myself)

    also something worth bearing in mind is that if you are going into any kind of work that will bring you into contact with children/vulnerable adults then it will cost you an additional £64 to obtain your crb from october '09 as you will first have to register with the ISA (independant safeguarding authority) before you can even apply. It also looks as though individuals will have to cover the cost of this £64 themselves, even if the employer pays for the crb as your ISA registration not is portable and required before you can be offered a job working with children/vulnerable adults
  • Caroline73
    I work for the NHS and the only time you are asked to pay for your CRB is if you are in a 'bank' position.
    HTH
    Originally posted by GemmaE
    I'm employed on the bank with 3 different NHS trusts and I have never paid for one - You would think it would be standard!
    Don't look at me, I'm irrelevant.
    • rdp1980
    • By rdp1980 4th Feb 09, 10:29 PM
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    Some companies insist on the (potential) employee paying for their own CRB check, but then reimburse this after you have been working continuously for a set period of time (eg 3 or 6 months).

    It might be worth checking if that is the arrangement in this case. May also be worth mentioning other employers recruiting for similar vacancies are meeting the cost themselves; they may be willing to be flexible.

    Of course it could work in your favour. Imagine how many people like yourself will be put off by paying this up front. Less people applying for the job will only increase your chance of success!
    • surreysaver
    • By surreysaver 5th Feb 09, 2:41 PM
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    Sorry 2 companies i worked for since i had one said i did not need a new one and just looked at the original one.That was for work in the courier industry.
    Originally posted by lucid2008
    That's probably because the jobs did not actually require one by law - so any old one would do for them. Employers that require one by law legally have to have a new one done.
    I consider myself to be a male feminist. Is that allowed?
  • triple-clones
    Taken from direct.gov.uk:

    "Employers must be registered with the Criminal Records Bureau to carry out criminal records checks. There is a fee and your employer could ask you to meet the cost."

    www dot direct dot gov dot uk/en/Employment/Employees/Startinganewjob/DG_10026518
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