MoneySavingExpert.com Free To Use, Free of Ads, UK, Consumer Revenge

IMPORTANT! This is MoneySavingExpert's open forum - anyone can post

Please exercise caution & report any spam, illegal, offensive, racist, libellous post to abuse@moneysavingexpert.com

Be nice to all MoneySavers

All the best tips go in the MoneySavingExpert weekly email

Plus all the new guides, deals & loopholes

No spam/referral links
You must Register to post (it's free!)
Parker Forrester
Reply
Views: 4,838
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
#1
parnechris
Old 02-10-2008, 6:30 PM
MoneySaving Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 4
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Parker Forrester

Thread Stats
Views:
4,838
WW Factor
Coming Soon...
Share This Thread:
I have been offered shares in a Pharmaceutical company by Parker Forrester. They are currently $66 a share and they have offered them to me at $56 a share. They tell me they will hit around $80- $85 in the next 4 to 6 weeks. Is this to good to be true?

All comments welcomed

Last edited by parnechris; 02-10-2008 at 6:49 PM.
parnechris is offline  
Reply With Quote Report Post
#2
Biggles
Old 02-10-2008, 6:47 PM
Fantastically Fervent MoneySaving Super Fan
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 3,181
Thanked 1,685 Times in 1,153 Posts
Default

Yes, it is.
Biggles is offline  
Reply With Quote Report Post
#3
dunstonh
Old 02-10-2008, 8:35 PM
Deliciously Dedicated Doubly Diehard MoneySaving Devotee
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 40,597
Thanked 19,043 Times in 13,980 Posts
Default

why have you been offered shares? Email scam? illegal cold calling?

Cold calling on share offers like this are a breach of FSA rules and there is only one outcome here. You will lose most, if not all your money. NEVER NEVER EVER transact business on the basis of cold calling. Work on the simple assumption that its fraudulent or desperate.
I am an Independent Financial Adviser.

A
nything posted on this forum is for discussion purposes only. It should not be considered financial advice. Different people have different needs and what is right for one person may be different for another. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser who can advise you after finding out more about your situation.
dunstonh is offline  
Reply With Quote Report Post
#4
turbobob
Old 02-10-2008, 8:51 PM
Serious MoneySaving Fan
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,546
Thanked 962 Times in 673 Posts
Default

Scam! Report it to the FSA.
turbobob is offline  
Reply With Quote Report Post
#5
Ian W
Old 02-10-2008, 11:48 PM
Fantastically Fervent MoneySaving Super Fan
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: North of Watford - Thank God!!
Posts: 3,564
Thanked 1,928 Times in 1,392 Posts
Default

Google "boiler room scam" for plenty of interesting reading including THIS from the City of London Police.
Ian W is offline  
Reply With Quote Report Post
#6
beenburned
Old 10-10-2008, 6:10 AM
MoneySaving Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Post Positively Possible

I had been burnt in the past by an outfit claiming to be based in the UK and lost quite a bit of money. About 2 months ago I was approached by Parker Forrester. They told me that they had a strong recommendation on a Biotech company that was possibly going to go through a bid war and that I would stand to make a substantial return but should only move on the opportunity when they felt it was secure enough to do so. They suggested I open a trading account with them which would be at no cost to me in which I did. Once my trading account was set up I had received a call a few days later by Parker Forrester suggesting that it would be a good idea for me to fund my account in order to expedite a trade quickly as timing was always an issue. I ended up funding my account with the sum of 4,000 EUROS. About a week later they called me again and said they were looking at picking up a large amount of shares in this biotech company through there traders at an institutional level. They advised me to purchase a small position at a slight discount to its current trading price because of the institutional buy. At that point I became suspicious and said I needed to think about it. I looked for additional help through friends and chat rooms on this matter. In the end, most opinions were that I was crazy to fund 4,000 EUROS into a trading account to begin with. My instant reaction as per fear of loss was to contact Parker Forrester and demand my 4,000 EUROS back. To my surprise they did return my 4,000 EUROS. In retrospect if I had taken the shares at that time I would have made a substantial return. You be the judge!
beenburned is offline  
Reply With Quote Report Post
#7
cheerfulcat
Old 10-10-2008, 7:47 AM
Fantastically Fervent MoneySaving Super Fan
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,065
Thanked 1,267 Times in 1,029 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by beenburned View Post
About 2 months ago I was approached by Parker Forrester. They told me that they had a strong recommendation on a Biotech company that was possibly going to go through a bid war and that I would stand to make a substantial return but should only move on the opportunity when they felt it was secure enough to do so.
Legitimate brokers don't cold call. They most certainly do not give stock recommendations, unless you are already an advisory client.
cheerfulcat is online now  
Reply With Quote Report Post
#8
purch
Old 10-10-2008, 8:03 AM
Fantastically Fervent MoneySaving Super Fan
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: On Top of Exmoor
Posts: 4,887
Thanked 8,706 Times in 3,173 Posts
Default

Quote:
They are currently $66 a share and they have offered them to me at $56 a share
Never look a gift horse in the mouth .....they've got bad breath !!!!
'In nature, there are
neither rewards nor punishments -
there are Consequences.'

R.G.Ingersoll, 1833-1899
purch is offline  
Reply With Quote Report Post
#9
scammedb4
Old 16-10-2008, 7:58 PM
MoneySaving Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default scam

Parker Forrester = Scam Scam Scam.
scammedb4 is offline  
Reply With Quote Report Post
#10
scammedb4
Old 16-10-2008, 8:10 PM
MoneySaving Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I was approached by a man named Chris on Tuesday who worked for this 'firm'. He was a sweet talking smart liar like the rest.DONT believe what they say.I get millions of calls a year from these pretend brokers. I have lost thousands on things like this. Avoid like the plague. Real brokers do not have time to cold call people. These people are scum.
scammedb4 is offline  
Reply With Quote Report Post
#11
Cy Vance
Old 02-12-2008, 6:13 PM
MoneySaving Newbie
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I have also been approached several times this year by different salesman from Parker Forrester. First they offered me a gold mine stock and then Imclone -- everytime at a 10% under the market price. Now how can they do this? Whatever the going price was, they offered me 10% lower.

I followed through, curious -- and they wanted me to send the money to their account in a little bank in Cyprus, which I had never heard of. So I checked them out in the internet: absolutely no good information about a company that claims to have thousands of clients and to have been in business for years as Parker and Forrester, two separate companies.

They claim to have offices in NY, Brazil and China. Well, on one site the NY office has a Chinese phone number and on another, a number that doesn't work -- Note a review on this site says they are in Bangkok, not China.

Frankly, I don't know where they are and I don't care -- But they certainly aren't who they claim to be and they're not getting any money from me.
Cy Vance is offline  
Reply With Quote Report Post
#12
purple_heather_
Old 04-06-2009, 4:58 PM
MoneySaving Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 3
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Smile Parker Forrester have served me very well.

PF have been looking after me for about 6 months and have made substantial % gains. They work on information not speculation and buy huge portions of shares at the right time to offer their customers good deals. Anyone quickly discarding PF as a spurious broker without reasonable enquiry is cutting off their own nose. Of course they're on the FSA list of foreign companies touting for business. They have to make this warning as anyone sending money overseas as is beyond their compass of reproach. The FSA have to cover their own backs so they can bleet the usual rhetoric "well, we told you so."

Initially I was sceptical about the legal footing of someone calling from Shanghai but investigation proved PK on the list of firms approved by the Chinese equivalent to the FSA and are subject to scrupulous audits. I spoke to UK customers, too. My worries were pacified when the % gains made by them testified to their inner knowledge. They're so bloody good at what they do they needn't be scammers. You can ask the perennial question "If they're so good why aren't they living on their laurels in Bermuda?" Besides financial gain, they love it and they're probably driven ambitious people.

The comments I've read on this page are sour grapes for the sake of it and not one writer has actually been ripped off by the real PF. Proactive companies DO cold call. Terrific deals DO exist. Legatimate companies DO appear on FSA lists.

If you're thinking of investing with PF do what I did: over a few months watch their three or four tipped companies share price rise. In March 09 they recommended Genworth (GNW) at $1.10. At the time of writing (June 09) they're almost $7.

If you think PK are con merchants look at them in a couple of years and you'll find they're still there trading from the same offices. Con merchants are transient and get closed down.

I hope you've found this helpful and your initial thought that I'm am PK employee is the same mode of thinking that will stop you investing and missing.
purple_heather_ is offline  
Reply With Quote Report Post
#13
gozomark
Old 04-06-2009, 5:15 PM
Serious MoneySaving Fan
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,768
Thanked 726 Times in 495 Posts
Default

why would anybody possibly think you are an employee ?
gozomark is offline  
Reply With Quote Report Post
#14
cheerfulcat
Old 04-06-2009, 5:16 PM
Fantastically Fervent MoneySaving Super Fan
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,065
Thanked 1,267 Times in 1,029 Posts
Default

Quote:
Proactive companies DO cold call.
That's as may be - however, legitimate stockbrokers do not.
cheerfulcat is online now  
Reply With Quote Report Post
#15
Rollinghome
Old 04-06-2009, 5:42 PM
MoneySaving Stalwart
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 653
Thanked 353 Times in 240 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by purple_heather_ View Post
If you think PK are con merchants...
It did cross my mind.

Could you explain? Parnchris has been offered shares for $56 that you, sorry they, claim are worth $66. What does that mean? The price of shares are based on what buyers have offered. Do you know anyone offering $66? If so, why not sell to them?

If they're so sure they'll be worth 50% more in a few weeks why don't the characters making the phonecalls buy them themselves instead of pestering the rest of us. Or perhaps get themselves proper honest jobs.

What does your mother think of what her son does for a living?
Rollinghome is online now  
Reply With Quote Report Post
#16
Reaper
Old 04-06-2009, 7:05 PM
Fantastically Fervent MoneySaving Super Fan
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 3,779
Thanked 1,859 Times in 1,039 Posts
Default

It's amazing how both the posters supporting them felt moved to join a forum for the sole purpose of making a single post saying how great they are. Not suspicious at all.

My advice to posters here will remain as it always has - don't buy shares tipped by cold callers, particularly when those companies are based abroad and not regulated by the UK's FSA.

No exceptions.
Borrow money from pessimists. They don't expect it back.
Reaper is offline  
Reply With Quote Report Post
The Following User Says Thank You to Reaper For This Useful Post: Show me >>
#17
nrsql
Old 04-06-2009, 7:50 PM
Serious MoneySaving Fan
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,404
Thanked 465 Times in 376 Posts
Default

It's usually fun to look at the company and especially the shares they are touting.

Often the company that issues the shares have board members with impressive bio's but very little presence elsewhere on the net. Often the company web site was set up in the recent past and registered to someone in the far east or canada.
Also do a search for text from the web site - it's often copied from somewhere else.

Remember the longer you can keep these salesmen on the phone the less time they have to prey on someone more vulnerable.
nrsql is offline  
Reply With Quote Report Post
#18
Biggles
Old 04-06-2009, 8:15 PM
Fantastically Fervent MoneySaving Super Fan
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 3,181
Thanked 1,685 Times in 1,153 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper View Post
It's amazing how both the posters supporting them felt moved to join a forum for the sole purpose of making a single post saying how great they are. Not suspicious at all.
Interestingly, the other thing they have in common is that they both registered months before their first post, which was on this thread. Almost as though they were 'sleepers', in place ready to rebuff any adverse comment on their firm should it crop up in the future.....

Very odd.
Biggles is offline  
Reply With Quote Report Post
#19
buy_the_gold
Old 07-06-2009, 7:17 PM
MoneySaving Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 3
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggles View Post
Interestingly, the other thing they have in common is that they both registered months before their first post, which was on this thread. Almost as though they were 'sleepers', in place ready to rebuff any adverse comment on their firm should it crop up in the future.....

Very odd.
i would like to know what has happend to my last posting
as its ok for members to say what they like in here
i joined the forum to voice a fact but never mind

just one thing here i was cold called by and agent and i agreed to recieve a second call to talk about investments
so this company never really cold called me i am sorry

but i think they are ok at the moment i shall wait now before my next investment
as i have just today spend money on forex site with a company on the internet
with a nice little return of 2.24% for 150 days
very nice deal
anyway i jioned here today and cant believe the way you all treat people in here

have a great day
buy_the_gold is offline  
Reply With Quote Report Post
#20
dunstonh
Old 07-06-2009, 7:48 PM
Deliciously Dedicated Doubly Diehard MoneySaving Devotee
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 40,597
Thanked 19,043 Times in 13,980 Posts
Default

Quote:
just one thing here i was cold called by and agent and i agreed to recieve a second call to talk about investments
so this company never really cold called me i am sorry
So, in other words, you were cold called and in that cold call you agreed to have a second call. The fact is that it still originated from a cold call.

Quote:
anyway i jioned here today and cant believe the way you all treat people in here
We are just sceptical of people who join up and make one post promoting a service that is either dodgy or a scam and choose to ignore sensible consumer warnings issued by the FSA and the everyone else who knows what they are talking about.
I am an Independent Financial Adviser.

A
nything posted on this forum is for discussion purposes only. It should not be considered financial advice. Different people have different needs and what is right for one person may be different for another. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser who can advise you after finding out more about your situation.
dunstonh is offline  
Reply With Quote Report Post
The Following User Says Thank You to dunstonh For This Useful Post: Show me >>
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

 Forum Jump  


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 8:01 AM.

 Forum Jump  
Ones Not To Miss
Forum Etiquette
Pls be nice to all MoneySavers. There's no such thing as a stupid question, and even if you disagree courtesy helps.
Take care over copyright. Use excerpts and links rather than copying long text. This site asserts copyright on all comments posted on the board.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

More tools from MoneySavingExpert

This website is based on journalistic research. It does not constitute financial advice. Any information should be considered in regard to specific circumstances. All tips are followed at your own risk and should be followed up with your own research. See Full Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy. Martin Lewis, MSE, Money Saving Expert, MoneySavingExpert and Moneysavingexpert.com are registered trademarks belonging to Martin S Lewis.