Collision: Whose fault is it?

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  • neilmcl
    neilmcl Posts: 19,460 Forumite
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    CYPER wrote: »
    Is it because I am a bad driver?



    True, the important thing is I cleaned the "damage".
    Btw my driving instructor expressed an opinion that the van is in the wrong. Good enough for me :)
    Have you actually passed a driving test yet?
  • Mercdriver
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    The only thing you should assume is that a driver is going to do something silly. Sometimes it's someone else, sometimes it's yourself. Drive cautiously enough to be able to do something about it and you will minimise the risk.

    My father in law always said to me while I was learning (as he said to his two daughters) drive to take into account the other idiots on the road.

    As I say, sometimes the idiot is someone else, sometimes it's you. Recognise the things you do badly when driving, you'll soon notice similar faults in others. No such thing as a perfect driver.
  • Mercdriver
    Mercdriver Posts: 3,898 Forumite
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    neilmcl wrote: »
    Have you actually passed a driving test yet?

    If not, (to OP) what was your supervising driver's comment?
  • Iceweasel
    Iceweasel Posts: 4,708 Forumite
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    CYPER wrote: »
    Is it because I am a bad driver?



    True, the important thing is I cleaned the "damage".
    Btw my driving instructor expressed an opinion that the van is in the wrong. Good enough for me :)

    Be aware that driving instructors do NOT teach people how to drive well - that comes only with experience.

    They teach people how to pass a minimum standard test.

    A driving instructor's comment on any incident that he/she did not personally see would NOT be good enough for me - and many others I suspect.

    My advanced driving instructor (a different beast entirely) advised that we should all use the ABC principle when observing other drivers and any signals of their intentions to do things.

    A: Assume nothing.
    B: Believe nothing.
    C: Check everything.
  • neilmcl
    neilmcl Posts: 19,460 Forumite
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    Iceweasel wrote: »
    Be aware that driving instructors do NOT teach people how to drive well - that comes only with experience.

    They teach people how to pass a minimum standard test.

    A driving instructor's comment on any incident that he/she did not personally see would NOT be good enough for me - and many others I suspect.

    My advanced driving instructor (a different beast entirely) advised that we should all use the ABC principle when observing other drivers and any signals of their intentions to do things.

    A: Assume nothing.
    B: Believe nothing.
    C: Check everything.
    In this instance the OP failed his ABCs then ;)
  • CYPER
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    neilmcl wrote: »
    Have you actually passed a driving test yet?

    Yes, 5 years ago.
  • bonnyrigger
    bonnyrigger Posts: 71 Forumite
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    There are some on this forum who if an OPs car was hit by an Asteroid impact would say it was 50% his fault :)
    :beer::beer::beer:
  • Manxman_in_exile
    Manxman_in_exile Posts: 8,380 Forumite
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    bonnyrigger wrote: »
    There are some on this forum who if an OPs car was hit by an Asteroid impact would say it was 50% his fault :)


    I think their insurance company would agree it was a "fault" claim too...
  • BeenThroughItAll
    BeenThroughItAll Posts: 5,018 Forumite
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    bonnyrigger wrote: »
    There are some on this forum who if an OPs car was hit by an Asteroid impact would say it was 50% his fault :)



    So you think they'd be able to claim 50% off the Asteroid's insurance, do you?


    Pretty sure the insured would end up with a 100% fault claim in those circumstances.


    Nice try, though.
  • cajef
    cajef Posts: 6,266 Forumite
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    edited 15 September 2017 at 4:06PM
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    Iceweasel wrote: »
    They teach people how to pass a minimum standard test.
    Actually that used to be the case but nowadays the DVSA syllabus and exams to qualify as an ADI and their retests are based on teaching driving skills for life and not just on getting people through a test.

    Though I agree that those skills become better with more experience.
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