P.I.P. consultation (mental health condition)
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Thankyou all for sharing your experiences. Tomorrow's the day of OH's consultation, we'll see how it goes. I thought P.I.P. was supposed to be more geared towards mental health conditions than DLA was. However it does look like we're going to be at the behest of these assessors, so it's anyone's guess what they'll actually say in their report. I shall make it clear that his disability might be invisible but that doesn't mean it's not there.It is not because things are difficult that we dare not venture
It is because we dare not venture that they are difficult
SENECA0 -
I'm now at the stage of having to decide if I want to lodge a late request for another appeal or if I want to apply again under my revised diagnoses. At this point, I'm not sure if I can cope with either.
As I was saying to my OH it's Catch-22. If you're well enough to be able to fill out these forms, attend the assessment, perform well at said assessment and ensure they write down the relevant information, you're well enough not to need their help. If you're not well enough to do these things you won't get the help you need due to not being well enough to go through the process.
OH did his best to explain his symptoms etc at the assessment, which was quite detailed. We now await the decision letter. The person taking the assessment was not a mental health nurse and I'm not convinced she was writing down the salient points. She told me that the PA4 consultation report is only available after they've sent the decision letter out, which contradicts what Muttleythefrog was saying.
His ESA claim is also being re-assessed, despite him being having been declared to be in the support group permanently so we'll probably have to go through all this again. Apparently it's another company who do the assessments for ESA, not Atos.
What a lot of stress and hassle, for people who are already ill and vulnerable.It is not because things are difficult that we dare not venture
It is because we dare not venture that they are difficult
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he can't be 'declared to be in the support group permanently'.
the maximum award is 3 years0 -
he can't be 'declared to be in the support group permanently'.
the maximum award is 3 years
Well, that's what they told him on the phone a few years ago, after a lengthy discussion about which group he should be put into. His illness is permanent and very unlikely to change, sadly.It is not because things are difficult that we dare not venture
It is because we dare not venture that they are difficult
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a permenant condition means nothing with regards to ESA.
i am blind and will always be blind ( barring a miracle
) and my ESA award is the longest that it can be. 3 years 0 -
There's many people out there, myself included whose condition is permanent but the max anyone can get is 3 years as Nannytone has stated.tensandunits wrote: »Well, that's what they told him on the phone a few years ago, after a lengthy discussion about which group he should be put into. His illness is permanent and very unlikely to change, sadly.0 -
a permenant condition means nothing with regards to ESA.
i am blind and will always be blind ( barring a miracle ) and my ESA award is the longest that it can be. 3 years
My previous two ESA awards were for 3 years each as eventually determined by the Tribunals
My DLA awards were 'indefinite' as eventually determined by the Tribunals
My PIP claim was turned down on the basis that it was clear to the assessor and the DWP case manager that I don't have the right type of difficulties.
So I agree with you in that you may well have permanent problems and chronic conditions, but that means nothing when claiming sickness or disability based benefits.0 -
As above think not possible. But it is worth saying as per others I when last reassessed was given 3 years... but I presume given how troubled the system is around and after ATOS HC leaving the contract they have deferred reassessments for some as suggested by whistleblowers at the time. My reassessment was now over 4 years ago... Feb 2013 they stated in call 36 months award.tensandunits wrote: »As
His ESA claim is also being re-assessed, despite him being having been declared to be in the support group permanently so we'll probably have to go through all this again. Apparently it's another company who do the assessments for ESA, not Atos."Do not attribute to conspiracy what can adequately be explained by incompetence" - rogerblack0 -
It should affect at least the consideration of reassessment timing... for both ESA and PIP... admittedly not in any greatly sophisticated way is it typically done.rockingbilly wrote: »
So I agree with you in that you may well have permanent problems and chronic conditions, but that means nothing when claiming sickness or disability based benefits."Do not attribute to conspiracy what can adequately be explained by incompetence" - rogerblack0
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