LED light bulbs

you can now get E27 and B22's for £1.50 or so, even less. So it's possible to replace all of the commonly used bulbs in the house for £15, saving the cost back in about 6 months for those who object to CFL's.

What lumens do they put out? What colour temperature are they? What is their CRI?
I bet they put out nothing like the quality of light of the incadescent or CFL bulbs they're 'replacing'.

Martyn1981 wrote: »

We fitted 7 GU10 LED's in the kitchen in 2011. One died after about 5 months, and we should have taken it back under the warranty, but couldn't be bothered. The rest are going strong. I've got loads of CFL's that have done 10yrs.

Might some of those LED's still be in use in 2030, probably a good chance.

I also agree with Ben over price, you can now get E27 and B22's for £1.50 or so, even less. So it's possible to replace all of the commonly used bulbs in the house for £15, saving the cost back in about 6 months for those who object to CFL's.

In fact LED's v's CFL's probably save another £5 or so pa, so like me, just swop to LED's as and when and keep the old CFL's for the bathroom.

Anyone holding out for a better LED, whilst using an incandescent is being rather silly. Buy a cheap LED, save the cost in 6 months, then buy a 'better' one when (if) it fails.

100% they will not be working in 2030 and they wuill have failed well before that. That comes from 14 years studying and developing LED drivers / power supplies and resistors.

Cheap LEDs are just that, cheap. Incredibly poor perfoming, made of the cheapest materials known to man, no heat disipation, crap power supplies with resistors that are worthless and manufactured by people who don't care one little bit what they are making or selling.

elstimpo wrote: »

None of them can match the quality of light of an incandescent or halogen. No bets needed, its fact, they cannot.

It's do wioth CRI / TM30 or CQS

I fully understand what you are saying elstimpo, and I agree to a degree, but most people simply do not care about CRI.

They didn't know or care about it when they had incandescent lights, they didn't know or care about it when they had CFL's, they don't know or care about it now they have LED's, and they probably wont know or care about it when the next lighting technology comes along either.

I understand that a lot of situations require specific lighting conditions, but Joe Bloggs isn't worried about the CRI of the light in his downstairs bog, he's worried about what it cost him.

That said, I am not Joe Bloggs and most of my bulbs cost me just under a tenner each. The one in my lounge cost £60, but it's a Lifx bulb so I can get virtually any colour and brightness I want out of it.

Still, I bought all mine when I had money. I wouldn't buy the same ones again, too pricey!

Why bother betting, why not go and try some, Screwfix, B&Q, Home Bargains etc.

I've already seen plenty of cheap, rubbish LEDs thanks. I was asking for your personal experience, and what bulbs exactly you had bought. The LEDs in Home Bargains, for example, are junk. IMO.

all the negativity towards CFL's when I was buying them for about £7 each 20yrs ago. Saved me a fortune, worked well, no problems.

...Apart from the mercury content.

Please do go ahead an ban halogen bulb, Martyn, but first, would you mind providing a link to one of these magical £1.50 lights that can actually put out the same amout of LIGHT (that's what you're paying for, remember) as a 100W halogen?

I've got plenty of LEDs around my house, as well as CFLs. And ONE halogen.

almillar wrote: »

To tidy up this thread I'm going to delete my posts/arguments with you. I'll just the leave the last as a summary.