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    moo2moo
    Sainsburys and Jamie Olivers Feed your Family for 5 Chat Thread
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    • 25th Mar 08, 9:48 AM
    Sainsburys and Jamie Olivers Feed your Family for 5 Chat Thread 25th Mar 08 at 9:48 AM
    Respecting Martins wishes that the original thread should be for recipes only
    I thought I'd start a discussion thread.

    The feed your family for a fiver campaign is for a single main meal. So thats 150 a month for main meals only. No breakfasts, no lunches, no drinks and no toiletries. How many of you would notice a significant increase in your shopping bill if you were to spend 5 on each evening meal? More to the point if you were to spend 5 on a meal surely you'd want something with a bit more pizazz than Sphagetti and Meatballs (the dish of choice for the campaign launch).

    The Debt Free Wanabees are striving to achieve a "live on 4000 for a year challenge". At 5 a main meal they would spend 1825 on this alone.
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  • lainz
    Slightly off but along the same lines
    I'm currently off work after an op and am becoming a connisour of daytime tv. Theres a new one started this week called Daily Cooks challenge. One of the challenges is to cook on a budget. On Monday it was 2 per portion and today it was 1.

    It was laughable really what they produced (although both did come under budget considerably both times!), the chefs were John Burton Race and Gino D'Campo. To be honest both times the stuff Gino produced was much more filling and 'proper' food. Today for example with the 1 budget he did a canalloni (can't spell) bean paste on brushetta with an anchovie and olive topping, and John produced 'eggy' bread with apple and cinnamen on top (meal?) You do wonder what planet people are on!:confused:

    Anyway this discussion is very good and as some people have mentioned 5 for a family of four for s#ome would be a reduction in budget. It always amazes me that everyone in my office is skint - but still manage to go to the shop and spend 3 or more on a sandwich and a drink. We have a toaster, kettle and microwave in our office and they are slowly coming round to my way of thinking!:rolleyes:

    Anyway have to get my thinking cap on and price up my ideas
  • Icanandwillsavemoney
    I have just collected the recipe cards from Sainsbury's detailing their 'Feed your family for a fiver'.

    1. Meatballs 'n' more - fat content 30.8g per portion, Sat fat 10.1g per portion.

    2. Bangers & roasted mash - fat 26.4g, Sat fat 9.8g per portion.

    3. Savoury sausage bake - fat 29.9g, sat fat 11.9g per portion.

    4. Homemade beefy burgers - fat 26.8g, sat fat 11.0g per portion.

    5. Chunky tuna cakes - fat 1.5g, sat fat 0.4g per portion.

    There were only 5 recipe cards and only one of them healthy!!

    Wasn't Jamie promoting healthy balanced diets? Maybe I am missing something here...
  • all_hours
    its going to be a tough job for whoever has to decide the winner - all the recipes on the competition thread sound delicious. im sitting here - trying to decide which one to try first.
  • HariboJunkie
    I have just collected the recipe cards from Sainsbury's detailing their 'Feed your family for a fiver'.

    1. Meatballs 'n' more - fat content 30.8g per portion, Sat fat 10.1g per portion.

    2. Bangers & roasted mash - fat 26.4g, Sat fat 9.8g per portion.

    3. Savoury sausage bake - fat 29.9g, sat fat 11.9g per portion.

    4. Homemade beefy burgers - fat 26.8g, sat fat 11.0g per portion.

    5. Chunky tuna cakes - fat 1.5g, sat fat 0.4g per portion.

    There were only 5 recipe cards and only one of them healthy!!

    Wasn't Jamie promoting healthy balanced diets? Maybe I am missing something here...
    Originally posted by Icanandwillsavemoney

    They seem healthy enough to me if they are eaten as part of a balanced diet. :confused: 30g of fat is still less than half the RDA for adults and as it's a main meal I think it seems fine.

    I admire Jamie for doing this. I think it would be pretty off putting for novice moneysavers if he started with a lower amount than 5.
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  • moanymoany
    I've just made B!!!2's Mexican Chickpea and Lemon Soup. It took quite a bit of whizzing to become smooth - I've no mint so excluded that - and it is GORGEOUS.

    I had frozen chickpeas so used them. I made it for the weekend, I've had a cup to check it and I will have a bowl at lunchtime. Maybe enough for DH to have a cup before dinner.

    I'm going to try the really cheap recipes, will post how they work out.

    Tonight - MelissaB's saving a house deposit beany recipe.

    Tomorrow - Timmo44's Nan's tuna casserole followed by Haribo's banoffee made into ice cream.

    Sunday - Pauli's Girls's Tuscan bean stew.

    Can't wait - yum yum !
    Last edited by moanymoany; 28-03-2008 at 11:22 AM.
  • moanymoany
    They seem healthy enough to me if they are eaten as part of a balanced diet. :confused: 30g of fat is still less than half the RDA for adults and as it's a main meal I think it seems fine.

    I admire Jamie for doing this. I think it would be pretty off putting for novice moneysavers if he started with a lower amount than £5.
    Originally posted by HariboJunkie

    I agree Haribo, I also think he has targetted the sort of food people like and are going to be more likely to make. My first reaction was £5 - 'ow much! On reflection I remembered when I regularly spent this much - and just for the two of us. It has taken me three years and much advice and many ideas from this site to get to spending way less than half than I was. I will 'fess up, I used to spend £500 - sometimes more - a month.
    Last edited by moanymoany; 28-03-2008 at 11:24 AM.
  • Dan Thunder
    What Sainsbury's would be better doing (from a consumer's perspective) is promoting the various storecupboard essentials that can have a meal whipped up from 'nothing'. For example, dried herbs, tinned toms, bags of pasta, cous cous, tinned beans (i.e. cannellini, not baked!). Most of those sorts of things are cheap, last aaaages, and can generally be used in conjunction with whatever you've got lying around the house to whip up a good meal for very little outlay.
  • Nix143
    Off topic but did you know Jamie gets 45,000 per day shooting adverts for Sainsburys with an overrun charge of 8k an hour...............that's a lot of 5quid dinners



    I suppose it's whether you believe that Jamie truly has the nation's health and welfare at heart or whether he is just in it for the bucks. For me I believe that he is driven by the desire for good food for all, he just happens to be personally able to make a shedload of money out of that. And by association Sainsburys won't do too bad either.

    But in effect no one loses, really.
    Jamie gets fat ole wodge of dosh in his pocket
    Sainsburys up sales
    Over spenders/non cooks get encouraged to cook from scratch and maybe save money and prepare better quality food.

    In a free market economy it is virtually impossible to keep big business away from using 'ethical choices' as a means to up their market share and profits. They're not altruistic, they are in it for the bucks. But at least 'ethical choice' advertising campaigns, like this one, or for free range eggs, or fair trade food, may have some positive spin offs somewhere along the line for someone other than the big businesses instigating them.





    And can I just say I have thoroughly enjoyed the bowl of homemade soup I just ate that cost me all of 15p a portion to produce . This forum right now is packed with a load of grannies sucking eggs furiously for all they are worth
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  • Cleosmum
    I have just started shopping in sainsbury, I had some vouchers through the post and decided to price them up on mysupermarket.com and they came out cheapest for what I buy and I got £5 off on top. If you had asked me a month ago to shop in sainsburys I would have refused, as far as I was concerned they were the most expensive out there.

    Recipe wise, I cant afford to do £5 a meal, so sidestepped the cards. We did pizza from scratch last week and worked out it cost 50p a pizza (2 does 4 people). We do a pasta and sauce that costs about 60p for all 5 of us. Sausage casserole is a bit more at £1.50 a meal (at most & inc mash). Pushed the boat out last night and had burritos and that came to £3.65 for the whole meal lol.
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  • Gers
    Seems to be a really whinging thread which only serves to show a bad side to this forum.

    There are plenty of people out there who spend more than they can afford on food because they haven't had the benefit of experience or learning and will really welcome the ideas given.

    OK - Sainsbury's is a commerical outfit and they are wanting to increase their profit, so what?? Don't see Tesco (or any other supermarket) bringing their prices right down, they are all in it for profit. They are businesses after all.

    This is the first time I've seen so many snide remarks and 'put downs' which are almost of a pack mentality. If you don't want to make the meals then don't.

    We can all be smug in our budgets and our meal planning and our use of left overs and our keen eyes for bargains and so on but don't forget those who haven't got any of these. Here we don't understand why people buy the 'finest' ranges, why they spend money at M&S and yet when one chain tries to educate about bringing the cost down there are still complaining comments about it.

    :confused:
  • elona
    Gers

    I did not think the thread was "whinging" but just pointing out that it was a "start" rather than a "finish".
    I agree that if it encourages people to cook then it is great especially if they then start to think for themselves what else they could make.
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  • Matt_S
    I think the idea is a good starting point, but agree that my first thought was 5? Thats a pricey bill when you add in other meals.

    One comment I do have a lot of the recipes people have putting in have things like value spaghetti listed. We spend about 150 a month on food for 2 definitely not more than 200 BUT that is all local veg and meat from local shops none from supermarkets and all other products are higher quality ranges. The key is cook from scratch.....which is the aim of the campaign....which should help people avoid nasty cheap meat and veg both improving health and using less carbon
  • cupid_s
    I think 35 for main meals isn't too much at all - yes it's a lot more than I spend but it's also a lot less than what some of my friends spend.

    I'm sure most people here could educate the public better and suggest cheaper meals, but we don't have that opportunity. Supermarkets do and I think it's great that Sainsbury's is trying to do something to get more people cooking
  • HariboJunkie
    I think the idea is a good starting point, but agree that my first thought was 5? Thats a pricey bill when you add in other meals.

    One comment I do have a lot of the recipes people have putting in have things like value spaghetti listed. We spend about 150 a month on food for 2 definitely not more than 200 BUT that is all local veg and meat from local shops none from supermarkets and all other products are higher quality ranges. The key is cook from scratch.....which is the aim of the campaign....which should help people avoid nasty cheap meat and veg both improving health and using less carbon
    Originally posted by Matt_S

    While I agree with you about cooking from scratch, I don't see the problem with using things like value spaghetti. Believe me I used to be very snobbish about value products but I have tried and tested alot of them and now know which I am happy with and which I am not. I included value bacon in my recipe as I really cannot tell the difference between that and my butcher's own.
    You also have to remember that a number of people will not have access to local shops as so many are closing down. We no longer have a green grocer in our town. The bacon is the only cheap meat I buy and I wouldn't call it nasty. In order to afford meat from my butcher and to pay a bit extra for free range chicken I just cook less meat. My recipe was trying to show that 3 courses could be done for 5 if I used those meals but I would say that most of my main courses come in under the 3 mark. This is an average though because I cook a chicken once a week and it usually does 1 roast meal, 1 rissotto/fried rice and makes stock for soup which we have with sandwiches in front of the telly on a Friday night.
    It isn't main meals which take the bulk if my shopping budget every week but fruit for the children and fresh veg.
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  • moo2moo
    Whinging? Not quite what I had in mind with the initial post. I was expecting more of the "If I was blowing £5 on a meal I'd go for...." which for my daughters would be fresh mussels in white wine with loads of fresh crusty bread and in my husbands case would be very rare steak with onions.

    The campaign is obviously intended to get the nation cooking but is the nation really going to be inspired by sphagetti and meatballs when the current range of Sainsburys mouthwatering Taste the Difference ready meals features dishes like "shin of beef and vivaldi potatoes".

    I could be antiquated but surely people cook either because they want to or because they have to. Thats the bit that makes the choice of spaghetti and meatballs odd. That and the cost of the current Sainsburys own brand Sphagetti and meatballs ready meal on offer at 4 for the price of 3 which makes the instant equivalent £5.97.
    Last edited by moo2moo; 28-03-2008 at 5:03 PM.
  • moanymoany
    When Jamie Oliver was 'discovered' he was working as a young chef in a restaurant that was the subject of a TV programme and the camera loved his enthusiasm.

    Since then, I wonder if Jamie comes into the category of 'the harder I work. the more successful I become.' I have two 'self made' wealthy friends. They work constantly, on holiday they have their laptops and their mobiles, ever in use. I would like what they can afford - snag - I'm not prepared to work as hard and as long as they do.

    Jamie is only paid this much as long as he is popular with the public. Sainsbury's clearly think he's worth the money.

    A lot of research would have gone into the recipes chosen to represent the campaign. Sainsbury's, through loyalty cards and market research will know exactly how much to pitch the campaign at. If it encourages more people to cook and eat family meals it will be worth while.
  • all_hours
    I have just started shopping in sainsbury, I had some vouchers through the post and decided to price them up on mysupermarket.com and they came out cheapest for what I buy and I got 5 off on top. If you had asked me a month ago to shop in sainsburys I would have refused, as far as I was concerned they were the most expensive out there.
    Originally posted by Cleosmum
    i prefer sainsburys because the nearest tesco doesnt have much choice - no value products + mainly branded and tesco finest.

    which sausages did you use for the casserole - they sell bags of frozen ones - 20 for 1.28. theyre smaller than the fresh ones - i use 3 per person instead of 2.
  • moanymoany
    Had melissaB's beany mix tonight. Have to say I was a bit unsure of mixing baked beans and tomatoes, but I needn't have worried. I didn't use hot dog sausages as we don't like them, I snipped some grilled bacon into it.

    I had my own home made bread with it which is not that much more expensive than value bread.

    It was really lovely, I certainly will be doing it again. It cost less than 1 for 2 - triff value.

    9/10
  • minibudgetgal
    went into sainsbury just for a nose at the recipe cards, picked up a handful on the way out and a groovy little folder.....................stopped by securiy and told the folders cost 49p! haha didnt see that, so gave it back to him, mumbled somethnhg about "didnt realise" (i didnt lol!), and walked out with a red face. First time EVER! all your fault lol. recipes arent bad, but i agree you could do it better with cheaper ingredients. These work quite well though as it is mainly stuff i already have in the freezer/store cupboard.
    xx
  • Andy Hamilton
    Sainsburys were on BBC breakfast a couple of months ago saying that they were making more money. As money gets tight, people still want high quality food which they can make at home easily. The MD also said the "taste the difference" range was making most of the sales.

    The adverts are just a shopping list for there store and if people want to spend 5 instead of 30+ for a family of 5 in resturant that has to help sainsbury's profits. This campain is not aimed at MSE people.

    My aim is 1 per main meal as a single bloke using fresh ingredients. For my last larger dinner party with 18 people it only costed 12 and everyone loved the food..
    Lets get this straight. Say my house is worth 100K, it drops 20K and I complain but I should not complain when I actually pay 200K via a mortgage:rolleyes:
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