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thegentleway
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edited 22 June 2017 at 1:51PM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
Hi,

My girlfriend received a Parking Charge on 12 May 2017 at approx 1am at Warwick University from Car Parking Partnership (CPP).

I appealed for her after receiving the NTK and have now received 13 page reply including POPLA code.

I have copied and pasted 4 appeal points from the Newbie thread (changes are shown in red) and would appreciate any help or advice with regard to my POPLA appeal.

Thank you!

POPLA Ref ...................
CPP Parking PC no .......................

Dear POPLA Adjudicator,

I am the registered keeper of vehicle xxxxxx and am appealing a parking charge from CPP on the following points:

1. The Notice to Keeper is not properly given and does not establish keeper liability under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012
2. The operator has not shown that the individual who it is pursuing is in fact the driver who may have been potentially liable for the charge
3. The signs in this car park are not prominent, clear or legible from all parking spaces and there is insufficient notice of the sum of the parking charge itself
4. No evidence of Landowner Authority - the operator is put to strict proof of full compliance with the BPA Code of Practice

1. The Notice to Keeper is not properly given and does not establish keeper liability under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012

The Notice to Keeper does not specify the 'period of parking'. It states only that the car was seen at XX:XX on the day in question. The period of parking is required by POFA 12 Schedule 4 paras 8(2)(a) and 8(2)(b)).

POPLA Assessor Matthew Shaw has stated that the NTK is a fundamental document in establishing keeper liability. The requirements of Schedule 4 of POFA2012 as regards the wording in a compliant NTK are clear and unequivocal and a matter of statute. Any omission or failure in the NTK wording means there is no 'keeper liability'. There is no case against me at all so it is, at best, surprising and irksome that CPP are pursuing this matter and wasting my time.

2. The operator has not shown that the individual who it is pursuing is in fact the driver who may have been potentially liable for the charge

In cases with a keeper appellant, yet no POFA 'keeper liability' to rely upon, POPLA must first consider whether they are confident that the Assessor knows who the driver is, based on the evidence received. No presumption can be made about liability whatsoever. A vehicle can be driven by any person (with the consent of the owner) as long as the driver is insured. There is no dispute that the driver was entitled to drive the car and I can confirm that they were, but I am exercising my right not to name that person.

In this case, no other party apart from an evidenced driver can be told to pay. I am the appellant throughout (as I am entitled to be), and as there has been no admission regarding who was driving, and no evidence has been produced, it has been held by POPLA on numerous occasions, that a parking charge cannot be enforced against a keeper without a valid NTK.

As the keeper of the vehicle, it is my right to choose not to name the driver, yet still not be lawfully held liable if an operator is not using or complying with Schedule 4. This applies regardless of when the first appeal was made and regardless of whether a purported 'NTK' was served or not, because the fact remains I am only appealing as the keeper and ONLY Schedule 4 of the POFA (or evidence of who was driving) can cause a keeper appellant to be deemed to be the liable party.

The burden of proof rests with the Operator to show that (as an individual) I have personally not complied with terms in place on the land and show that I am personally liable for their parking charge. They cannot.

Furthermore, the vital matter of full compliance with the POFA was confirmed by parking law expert barrister, Henry Greenslade, the previous POPLA Lead Adjudicator, in 2015:

Understanding keeper liability
“There appears to be continuing misunderstanding about Schedule 4. Provided certain conditions are strictly complied with, it provides for recovery of unpaid parking charges from the keeper of the vehicle.

There is no ‘reasonable presumption’ in law that the registered keeper of a vehicle is the driver. Operators should never suggest anything of the sort. Further, a failure by the recipient of a notice issued under Schedule 4 to name the driver, does not of itself mean that the recipient has accepted that they were the driver at the material time. Unlike, for example, a Notice of Intended Prosecution where details of the driver of a vehicle must be supplied when requested by the police, pursuant to Section 172 of the Road Traffic Act 1988, a keeper sent a Schedule 4 notice has no legal obligation to name the driver. [...] If {POFA 2012 Schedule 4 is} not complied with then keeper liability does not generally pass.''

Therefore, no lawful right exists to pursue unpaid parking charges from myself as keeper of the vehicle, where an operator cannot transfer the liability for the charge using the POFA.

This exact finding was made in 6061796103 against ParkingEye in September 2016, where POPLA Assessor Carly Law found:
''I note the operator advises that it is not attempting to transfer the liability for the charge using the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 and so in mind, the operator continues to hold the driver responsible. As such, I must first consider whether I am confident that I know who the driver is, based on the evidence received. After considering the evidence, I am unable to confirm that the appellant is in fact the driver. As such, I must allow the appeal on the basis that the operator has failed to demonstrate that the appellant is the driver and therefore liable for the charge. As I am allowing the appeal on this basis, I do not need to consider the other grounds of appeal raised by the appellant. Accordingly, I must allow this appeal.''

3. The signs in this car park are not prominent, clear or legible from all parking spaces and there is insufficient notice of the sum of the parking charge itself

There was no contract nor agreement on the 'parking charge' at all. It is submitted that the driver did not have a fair opportunity to read about any terms involving this huge charge, which is out of all proportion and not saved by the dissimilar 'ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis' case.

In the Beavis case, which turned on specific facts relating only to the signs at that site and the unique interests and intentions of the landowners, the signs were unusually clear and not a typical example for this notorious industry. The Supreme Court were keen to point out the decision related to that car park and those facts only:

http://imgur.com/a/AkMCN

In the Beavis case, the £85 charge itself was in the largest font size with a contrasting colour background and the terms were legible, fairly concise and unambiguous. There were 'large lettering' signs at the entrance and all around the car park, according to the Judges.

Here is the 'Beavis case' sign as a comparison to the signs under dispute in this case:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-eYdphoIIDgE/VpbCpfSTaiI/AAAAAAAAE10/5uFjL528DgU/s640/Parking%2Bsign_001.jpg

This case, by comparison, does not demonstrate an example of the 'large lettering' and 'prominent signage' that impressed the Supreme Court Judges and swayed them into deciding that in the specific car park in the Beavis case alone, a contract and 'agreement on the charge' existed.

Here, the signs are sporadically placed, indeed obscured and hidden in some areas.

Evidence that the sign at the entrance is obscured and hidden:

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Evidence that there is no sign on the side of the access road where the driver was parked (the driver was parked where the van is parked):

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The sign on the wrong side of the access road cannot be seen from where the driver was parked. In addition, it is not adequately lit, as can be seen from CPP’s own picture:

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This picture also highlights that the sign is far too high to be seen.

The signs
are unremarkable, not immediately obvious as parking terms and the wording is mostly illegible, being crowded and cluttered with a lack of white space as a background. It is indisputable that placing letters too close together in order to fit more information into a smaller space can drastically reduce the legibility of a sign, especially one which must be read BEFORE the action of parking and leaving the car.

It is vital to observe, since 'adequate notice of the parking charge' is mandatory under the POFA Schedule 4 and the BPA Code of Practice, these signs do not clearly mention the parking charge which is hidden in small print (and does not feature at all on some of the signs). Areas of this site are unsigned and there are no full terms displayed - i.e. with the sum of the parking charge itself in large lettering - at the entrance either, so it cannot be assumed that a driver drove past and could read a legible sign, nor parked near one.

This case is more similar to the signage in POPLA decision 5960956830 on 2.6.16, where the Assessor Rochelle Merritt found as fact that signs in a similar size font in a busy car park where other unrelated signs were far larger, was inadequate:

''the signage is not of a good enough size to afford motorists the chance to read and understand the terms and conditions before deciding to remain in the car park. [...] In addition the operators signs would not be clearly visible from a parking space [...] The appellant has raised other grounds for appeal but I have not dealt with these as I have allowed the appeal.''

From the evidence I have seen so far, the terms appear to be displayed inadequately, in letters no more than about half an inch high, approximately. I put the operator to strict proof as to the size of the wording on their signs and the size of lettering for the most onerous term, the parking charge itself.

The letters seem to be no larger than .40 font size going by this guide:

http://www-archive.mozilla.org/newlayout/testcases/css/sec526pt2.htm

As further evidence that this is inadequate notice, Letter Height Visibility is discussed here:

http://www.signazon.com/help-center/sign-letter-height-visibility-chart.aspx

''When designing your sign, consider how you will be using it, as well as how far away the readers you want to impact will be. For example, if you are placing a sales advertisement inside your retail store, your text only needs to be visible to the people in the store. 1-2” letters (or smaller) would work just fine. However, if you are hanging banners and want drivers on a nearby highway to be able to see them, design your letters at 3” or even larger.''

...and the same chart is reproduced here:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Outdoor-Dimensional-Sign-Letter-Best-Viewing-Distance-/10000000175068392/g.html

''When designing an outdoor sign for your business keep in mind the readability of the letters. Letters always look smaller when mounted high onto an outdoor wall''.

''...a guideline for selecting sign letters. Multiply the letter height by 10 and that is the best viewing distance in feet. Multiply the best viewing distance by 4 and that is the max viewing distance.''

So, a letter height of just half an inch, showing the terms and the 'charge' and placed high on a wall or pole or buried in far too crowded small print, is woefully inadequate in an outdoor car park. Given that letters look smaller when high up on a wall or pole, as the angle renders the words less readable due to the perspective and height, you would have to stand right in front of it and still need a stepladder (and perhaps a torch and/or magnifying glass) to be able to read the terms.

Under Lord Denning's Red Hand Rule, the charge (being 'out of all proportion' with expectations of drivers in this car park and which is the most onerous of terms) should have been effectively: 'in red letters with a red hand pointing to it' - i.e. VERY clear and prominent with the terms in large lettering, as was found to be the case in the car park in 'Beavis'. A reasonable interpretation of the 'red hand rule' and the 'signage visibility distance' tables above and the BPA Code of Practice, taking all information into account, would require a parking charge and the terms to be displayed far more transparently, on a lower sign and in far larger lettering, with fewer words and more 'white space' as background contrast. Indeed in the Consumer Rights Act 2015 there is a 'Requirement for transparency':

(1) A trader must ensure that a written term of a consumer contract, or a consumer notice in writing, is transparent.
(2) A consumer notice is transparent for the purposes of subsection (1) if it is expressed in plain and intelligible language and it is legible.

The Beavis case signs not being similar to the signs in this appeal at all, I submit that the persuasive case law is in fact 'Vine v London Borough of Waltham Forest [2000] EWCA Civ 106' about a driver not seeing the terms and consequently, she was NOT deemed bound by them.

This judgment is binding case law from the Court of Appeal and supports my argument, not the operator's case:

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2000/106.html

This was a victory for the motorist and found that, where terms on a sign are not seen and the area is not clearly marked/signed with prominent terms, the driver has not consented to - and cannot have 'breached' - an unknown contract because there is no contract capable of being established. The driver in that case (who had not seen any signs/lines) had NOT entered into a contract. The recorder made a clear finding of fact that the plaintiff, Miss Vine, did not see a sign because the area was not clearly marked as 'private land' and the signs were obscured/not adjacent to the car and could not have been seen and read from a driver's seat before parking.

So, for this appeal, I put this operator to strict proof of where the car was parked and (from photos taken in the same lighting conditions) how their signs appeared on that date, at that time, from the angle of the driver's perspective. Equally, I require this operator to show how the entrance signs appear from a driver's seat, not stock examples of 'the sign' in isolation/close-up. I submit that full terms simply cannot be read from a car before parking and mere 'stock examples' of close-ups of the (alleged) signage terms will not be sufficient to disprove this.

4. No evidence of Landowner Authority - the operator is put to strict proof of full compliance with the BPA Code of Practice

As this operator does not have proprietary interest in the land then I require that they produce an unredacted copy of the contract with the landowner. The contract and any 'site agreement' or 'User Manual' setting out details including exemptions - such as any 'genuine customer' or 'genuine resident' exemptions or any site occupier's 'right of veto' charge cancellation rights - is key evidence to define what this operator is authorised to do and any circumstances where the landowner/firms on site in fact have a right to cancellation of a charge. It cannot be assumed, just because an agent is contracted to merely put some signs up and issue Parking Charge Notices, that the agent is also authorised to make contracts with all or any category of visiting drivers and/or to enforce the charge in court in their own name (legal action regarding land use disputes generally being a matter for a landowner only).

Witness statements are not sound evidence of the above, often being pre-signed, generic documents not even identifying the case in hand or even the site rules. A witness statement might in some cases be accepted by POPLA but in this case I suggest it is unlikely to sufficiently evidence the definition of the services provided by each party to the agreement.

Nor would it define vital information such as charging days/times, any exemption clauses, grace periods (which I believe may be longer than the bare minimum times set out in the BPA CoP) and basic information such as the land boundary and bays where enforcement applies/does not apply. Not forgetting evidence of the various restrictions which the landowner has authorised can give rise to a charge and of course, how much the landowner authorises this agent to charge (which cannot be assumed to be the sum in small print on a sign because template private parking terms and sums have been known not to match the actual landowner agreement).

Paragraph 7 of the BPA CoP defines the mandatory requirements and I put this operator to strict proof of full compliance:

7.2 If the operator wishes to take legal action on any outstanding parking charges, they must ensure that they have the written authority of the landowner (or their appointed agent) prior to legal action being taken.

7.3 The written authorisation must also set out:

a the definition of the land on which you may operate, so that the boundaries of the land can be clearly defined

b any conditions or restrictions on parking control and enforcement operations, including any restrictions on hours of operation

c any conditions or restrictions on the types of vehicles that may, or may not, be subject to parking control and enforcement

d who has the responsibility for putting up and maintaining signs

e the definition of the services provided by each party to the agreement

Best regards,

Registered keeper
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  • Coupon-mad
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    Yep, that's good. Unless there is anything else 'non-POFA' about the NTK?
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  • Umkomaas
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    Coupon-mad wrote: »
    Yep, that's good. Unless there is anything else 'non-POFA' about the NTK?

    Definitely agree with CM on that point. A thorough analysis (and possible dismantling) of their NtK might provide rich rewards.

    Also their signage 'Resident Permit Holders Only' is a forbidding sign - so check out 'forbidding signage' with a forum search, and on PePiPoo and The Parking Prankster's blog, where you will find lots of points to further bolster your appeal.

    You should also make play of the minute text on the signage which (surely) can't be read without a Sherlock Holmes magnifying lens, milk bottle-bottomed glasses or a pair of binoculars, especially if they contend that forms some type of 'contract' with the motorist.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • thegentleway
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    Thanks for the help.

    I'm not sure what else is non POFA compliant about their NTK but will take a closer look. I don't have the original (it's packed: we're moving) but she's just got another one I can share:

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  • Coupon-mad
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    There is not only no photo evidence seen, proving that the car was not displaying a permit, but in addition there are no legible terms on a sign even requiring a driver to 'display' a permit! It just states 'resident permit holders only' with nothing readable about any obligation, no requirement to display it (a need to display a paper permit cannot be assumed, in this time of electronic records). They have failed to evidence that the driver was not a 'permit holder' and it is up to the party demanding money to prove their case.

    I would add that as the first point...
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  • thegentleway
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    Thanks for the help,

    There is a picture of the windscreen on their website but not on the NTK.

    I have modified section 1 and added a another section:

    1. The Notice to Keeper is not properly given and does not establish keeper liability under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012


    Firstly, the Notice to Keeper does not specify the 'period of parking'. It states only that the car was seen at xx:xx on the day in question. The period of parking is required by POFA 12 Schedule 4 paras 8(2)(a) and 8(2)(b)).

    Secondly, the Notice to Keeper does not contain any photo evidence to prove that the vehicle was not displaying a valid resident permit. CPP has failed to evidence that the driver was not a permit holder and it is up to the party demanding money to demonstrate this.

    Finally, there are no legible terms on any sign (see point 3 for evidence) requiring drivers to display a permit. The need to display a paper permit cannot be assumed in this time of electronic records.


    POPLA Assessor Matthew Shaw has stated that the NTK is a fundamental document in establishing keeper liability. The requirements of Schedule 4 of POFA2012 as regards the wording in a compliant NTK are clear and unequivocal and a matter of statute. Any omission or failure in the NTK wording means there is no 'keeper liability'. There is no case against me at all so it is, at best, surprising and irksome that CPP are pursuing this matter and wasting my time.

    4. The wording of the signage forbids parking, as such there is no offer to park and therefore no contract.

    Since the only legible wording on the sporadically placed signage is: “Resident Permit Holders Only”, the signage forbids parking for non-resident permit holders. There is no offer to park and therefore no contract.

    This is clear from several cases. In PCM-UK v Bull et all B4GF26K6 [2016], UKPC v Masterson B4GF26K6[2016], and Horizon Parking v Mr J C5GF17X2 [2016], the signage forbade parking and so no contract was in place. The parking companies did not have standing to claim.
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  • thegentleway
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    Decision: Unsuccessful
    Assessor Name: Gemma West
    Assessor summary of operator case
    The operator’s case is that the appellant failed to display a valid permit.

    Assessor summary of your case
    The appellant has raised a number of grounds of appeal which I have listed below: • The appellant has raised landowner authority. • She explains the parking charge does not comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act (2012). • The appellant states the operator has failed to show no valid permit was on display. • She says the signage at the car park is inadequate.

    Assessor supporting rational for decision
    The operator has provided photographic evidence of the terms and conditions of the car park which state “Resident Permit Holders only…Failure to comply with the terms & conditions will result in a Parking Charge of: £70”. The operator states it issued the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) as the appellant failed to display a valid permit. The operator is pursuing the registered keeper for the parking charge as it has not been able to identify the driver of the vehicle. In order for the operator to do this, it must transfer liability for the charge from the driver to the keeper in accordance with PoFA 2012. I have reviewed the copy of the notice to keeper provided by the operator. Schedule 4 Paragraph 8(2)(f) PoFA 2012 provides that the notice to keeper must: ‘warn the keeper that if, after the period of 28 days beginning with the day after that on which the notice is given – (i) The amount of the unpaid parking charges specified under paragraph (d) has not been paid in full; and (ii) The creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid;’ The notice to keeper has not satisfied the above requirements of PoFA 2012. This is because it does not give the correct timescale for the transfer of liability. Under PoFA 2012, transfer of liability occurs after ‘28 days beginning with the day after the date the notice is given’, but the notice to keeper states ’… 29 days from the date given (which is presumed to be the second working day after the Date Issued) …’. The Date Issued is specified on the notice to keeper as 12 May 2017, rather than the date of the notice to keeper itself, which is 13 June 2017. PoFA 2012 has strict requirements for the transfer of liability and these requirements have not been met in this case. The operator has failed to transfer liability from the driver to the registered keeper of the vehicle. Whilst I appreciate the appellant has raised other issues, it is not necessary to consider them in this appeal. Because the operator has failed to transfer liability, the parking charge is not enforceable against the registered keeper. I note the appellant has raised additional grounds of appeal; however as I have allowed the appeal on the above basis I have not considered them.
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  • Coupon-mad
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    So you won, but the decision was headed 'unsuccessful'!

    We've seen that before.
    The notice to keeper has not satisfied the above requirements of PoFA 2012. This is because it does not give the correct timescale for the transfer of liability. Under PoFA 2012, transfer of liability occurs after ‘28 days beginning with the day after the date the notice is given’, but the notice to keeper states ’… 29 days from the date given (which is presumed to be the second working day after the Date Issued) …’. The Date Issued is specified on the notice to keeper as 12 May 2017, rather than the date of the notice to keeper itself, which is 13 June 2017.
    So CPP were/are making the same 'date issued' error as Euro Car Parks were making until recently - well worth noting.

    Maybe CPP are still making that mistake on NTKs now.

    Well done! Can you also post the decision in POPLA Decisions at the top, please, with a link to this thread and mentioning which PPC you beat!
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  • thegentleway
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    Coupon-mad wrote: »
    So you won, but the decision was headed 'unsuccessful'!

    We've seen that before.


    So CPP were/are making the same 'date issued' error as Euro Car Parks were making until recently - well worth noting.

    Maybe CPP are still making that mistake on NTKs now.

    Well done! Can you also post the decision in POPLA Decisions at the top, please, with a link to this thread and mentioning which PPC you beat!

    Thanks for your help Coupon-mad. I will post it in the right place.

    I have also received this from CPP:

    Dear Sir / Madam,

    We refer to the Parking Charge incurred on ######, at The University of Warwick - Jack Martin/Arthur Vick/Tocil car park.

    We understand that receiving a Parking Charge Notice may be inconvenient, however, issuing Parking Charges for breaches of the parking terms and conditions at this car park is necessary to ensure a better overall parking experience for all users of the facilities.

    We can confirm that this Parking Charge has now been cancelled and there is no outstanding payment due.

    To avoid potential future inconvenience, we would kindly request you follow the parking terms and conditions displayed on the signage throughout the car park.

    Kind Regards,

    Car Parking Partnership Team
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  • pappa_golf
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    We understand that receiving a Parking Charge Notice may be inconvenient, however, issuing Parking Charges for breaches of the parking terms and conditions at this car park is necessary to ensure a better overall parking experience for all users of the facilities.


    NO , have a car parking warden on site to ASSIST in parking would be far better than a "wierdo" stalking thru university grounds at 1am in the morning
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