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23-02-2013, 6:05 PM
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1.80kWh today. Not too bad as it has been snowing on and off all day. Not settled though. Thankfully.
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Better than I for today, plus you are in 'The Rain Forest'; I improved on yesterday, but by not too much...... 1.5kWh. FIT total this 1/4 was £110.64p copared to same period last year of £117.42p.  Could have been worse, Hiya Shafeeq..
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23-02-2013, 7:38 PM
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2.7kWh for me today.
Just about made 100kWh in Feb..need another 70kWh for PVGIS
Reckon I'll be lucky to get 70% of it!
E. Coast. 16 x 250kWp Sanyo Hit250 panels.4kWp SMA 3.8kWp inverter. SW facing roof. 28° pitch. No shading.
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23-02-2013, 7:56 PM
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3.4 kWh today
70kWh down on the month compared to last year
Oh well, a few more years and I can amuse myself playing with the stats waiting for the Sun to appear..
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23-02-2013, 8:14 PM
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: Could have been worse, Hiya Shafeeq.. 
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Oscargrouch only 1 word for you 2.99 kwh 
From Sheffield. 3kwp YingLi Panda Series Solar Panels with SMA 3000-20 TL Inverter
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24-02-2013, 6:26 PM
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1.92 kwh today. ....
From Sheffield. 3kwp YingLi Panda Series Solar Panels with SMA 3000-20 TL Inverter
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24-02-2013, 7:51 PM
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1.92 kwh today. ....
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Did me again 
1.2 kWh today; 0.16kWp less than he that shall remain name less
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24-02-2013, 8:49 PM
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Hi all, 3.448 kWh for us today, had a weekend away from home and missed watching Sunny Beam  .
Dug out the travel kettle to use whilst generation is low, every little (saving) helps.
3.995 kWp PV system, SSEfacing, 28 Deg Roof
17 Panasonic N235B panels Sunny Boy4000 inverter
Reg. for FIT 22nd. Dec 2012. Cheshire
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24-02-2013, 9:05 PM
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2.02kWh for me.
Sun came out at 16.00 for a while
Far too late for my panels....they were just starting to doze off
E. Coast. 16 x 250kWp Sanyo Hit250 panels.4kWp SMA 3.8kWp inverter. SW facing roof. 28° pitch. No shading.
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24-02-2013, 9:22 PM
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Hiya boys and girls. Haven't posted results for a while. Been sulking - lots of days with sun forecast for each and every hour, but all came and went with about 1/3 of expected generation (no surprises there, will join Eric for a sulk and a moan about forecasts). At least it's been dry.
So below average days most of last week, and estimate for month has slipped down to 104%, but still good, fingers crossed for last 4 days.
Mart.
Cardiff. 5.58 kWp PV system (2.4 ESE & 1.18 ESE & 2.0 WNW)
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24-02-2013, 9:34 PM
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1.5 kWh today.
Thank God for Oscargrouch.
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24-02-2013, 9:57 PM
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(no surprises there, will join Eric for a sulk and a moan about forecasts). At least it's been dry.
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I don't usually 'sulk' about weather forecasts - just like to muse about their errors (which I guess could be seen as moaning).
It's actually been dry now for a couple of weeks (I'm just as obsessed with monitoring water levels in my tanks as I am generation).
I'm not one of those people who blame the forecasters for 'giving' us undesirable weather (not that I'm suggesting anyone else here is); I'd just like to think that with all the cash spent on generating forecasts it's quite reasonable to expect a reasonable degree of accuracy.
Today's generation was 3.76 kWh (passing my ISA test) and month to date figures extrapolated to month end suggest I can expect 93.5% of my (recently revised) PVGIS 'entitlement for Feb - but even that is well over twice the ISA cost.
N Derbyshire.
4kwp S Facing 17.5deg slope (dormer roof).
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24-02-2013, 10:22 PM
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Hiya Eric, actually I'm with you on that. I'm moaning about the fact that they don't seem able (through no fault of their own) to give accurate forecasts anymore.
Till late 2011 I could guesstimate generation for a week ahead from the forecast, then replace with actual generation. The forecasts were pretty damn close.
Now I'm generating 3 on days I expect 15, and vice versa. Ho hum.
BTW 'joining you for a sulk and a moan' was a laugh at my expense, not yours.
Mart.
Cardiff. 5.58 kWp PV system (2.4 ESE & 1.18 ESE & 2.0 WNW)
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24-02-2013, 10:31 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17100224
Guess that ZX Spectrum has run it's course.
Forecasting has seemed more off than usual the last 18 months or so..any conspiracy theories?
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25-02-2013, 1:40 AM
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Weekly results - Grey drying weather from Poland via the N.Sea
3.6 kWp inverter North side of Thames estuary facing SE on 30 degree roof:
kWh
10.31 18/02 Monday
14.57 19/02 Tuesday
03.61 20/02 Wednesday
01.97 21/02 Thursday
02.03 22/02 Friday
03.99 23/02 Saturday
01.36 24/02 Sunday
Tuesday was a perfect day, by chance so was the 19th February last year; however last year's reading was 15.01- I wonder if the drop in performance is significant.
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25-02-2013, 11:44 AM
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Got our final fit payment for the year this morning. Sent fit reading by e-mail to Eon on 17th, at end of day. Money was in bank this morning 8 days.
Total generation for the year is 1822kWh.
Total payments £849.79
After a really bad start with the pv panels because of installation hold ups and the fact that we have had the inverter changed. Firstly was going to have 2 x 1200 Sunny Boy inverters. These were not installed as electrician said they where wrong for our system. Had to have another one delivered this was a Sunny Boy 2400 and have electrician come back to wire up. Several weeks later this was changed to one Sunny boy 1200 inverter and 2 x 600 Steccas because of having the panels installed on 2 different levels and shading issues. The whole installation took around 2 weeks before we were up and running properly. We have quite a lot of shading issues over the winter period so all in all we think the generation figure was not too bad for us.
£849.79 Fit payments for one year
£192.00 Electricity payments 12 x £16.00
£000.00 Gas turned off
£192.00 Water (metered)
£145.50 TV licence
£299.00 Buildings and contents insurance
£828.50 Total
£ 21.29 left over
Just to explain regarding no gas usage and very low electricity use. Gas supply turned off because we have a multi fuel burning stove in living room which supplies hot water and heats 10 radiators. Also have a wood burning cooker so electricity useage is very low. We have low wattage bulbs all over the house, even in the understairs cuboard and in the loft. No dishwasher and only have the washing machine on twice a week (average).
During the summer months we use a small portable cooker with oven/grill and 2 rings or a slow cooker for cooking. This uses the electricity generated by the solars.
So all in all we are very pleased with the income the solars have generated. As posted they have covered all our bills except the Council Tax and our car.
Edwink
2.4KWp PV system, south facing, Hertfordshire rainforest. Shading all winter
Last edited by edwink; 25-02-2013 at 3:14 PM.
Reason: Changed Building and Contents Insurance cost
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25-02-2013, 1:28 PM
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2.5 kWp PV system, SSW facing, 45 Deg Roof
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25-02-2013, 2:08 PM
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Originally Posted by edwink
Got our final fit payment for the year this morning. Sent fit reading by e-mail to Eon on 17th, at end of day. Money was in bank this morning 8 days.
Total generation for the year is 1822kWh.
Total payments £849.79
After a really bad start with the pv panels because of installation hold ups and the fact that we have had the inverter changed. Firstly was going to have 2 x 1200 Sunny Boy inverters. These were not installed as electrician said they where wrong for our system. Had to have another one delivered this was a Sunny Boy 2400 and have electrician come back to wire up. Several weeks later this was changed to one Sunny boy 1200 inverter and 2 x 600 Steccas because of having the panels installed on 2 different levels and shading issues. The whole installation took around 2 weeks before we were up and running properly. We have quite a lot of shading issues over the winter period so all in all we think the generation figure was not too bad for us.
£849.79 Fit payments for one year
£192.00 Electricity payments 12 x £16.00
£000.00 Gas turned off
£192.00 Water (metered)
£145.50 TV licence
£304.98 Buildings and contents insurance
£834.48 Total
£ 15.31 left over
Just to explain regarding no gas usage and very low electricity use. Gas supply turned off because we have a multi fuel burning stove in living room which supplies hot water and heats 10 radiators. Also have a wood burning cooker so electricity useage is very low. We have low wattage bulbs all over the house, even in the understairs cuboard and in the loft. No dishwasher and only have the washing machine on twice a week (average).
During the summer months we use a small portable cooker with oven/grill and 2 rings or a slow cooker for cooking. This uses the electricity generated by the solars.
So all in all we are very pleased with the income the solars have generated. As posted they have covered all our bills except the Council Tax and our car.
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Wow,that insurance seems a bit on the high side. Can't say i've paid more than £120-150 a year for both B & C insurance on a 3 bed detatched. Even got my brothers down to £160 on a 4 bed det. Please tell me you don't just renew with your existing insurer? I thought you were doing REALLY well with your bills till i saw that.
Tunnel
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25-02-2013, 2:26 PM
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Wow,that insurance seems a bit on the high side. Can't say i've paid more than £120-150 a year for both B & C insurance on a 3 bed detatched. Even got my brothers down to £160 on a 4 bed det. Please tell me you don't just renew with your existing insurer? I thought you were doing REALLY well with your bills till i saw that.
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I pay more than Ed for a 4 bed det. I can get it cheaper but choose to use one that I know from experience pays up without hassle. Also included are PV panels, very low excess and, when I go on Holiday all I need is health cover as all other items are covered on House Policy. Much prefer to know I have good insurance rather than find I am paying for hassle if anything happens. NFU Mutual.
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25-02-2013, 3:11 PM
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I pay more than Ed for a 4 bed det. I can get it cheaper but choose to use one that I know from experience pays up without hassle. Also included are PV panels, very low excess and, when I go on Holiday all I need is health cover as all other items are covered on House Policy. Much prefer to know I have good insurance rather than find I am paying for hassle if anything happens. NFU Mutual.
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We have a 3 bed detached. Our insurance has gone up over the years as others have found in Hertfordshire and indeed other areas. I have shopped around but as Oscar says I can get it cheaper but choose to use one from experience. We have loads covered with the policy including lost keys etc and bicycles stored outside etc etc. We have accidental damage included too!! Also have a low excess with the policy. So have been happy with it although it has gone up quite a bit over the past few years. We always do a bit of researching before deciding to renew.
Just double checked what we actually paid and it was £299.00. The £304.00 I stated was the policy price including 2% added for credit card payments.
Will edit my original post!!
Edwink x
2.4KWp PV system, south facing, Hertfordshire rainforest. Shading all winter
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25-02-2013, 4:44 PM
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Well i've just checked mine and this year paid £150 for B & C,went through a cashback site for another £60 back so paid a grand total of £90. I did compare like for like and found no difference whatsoever. I'm with Aviva too so no back street ins company either. They do pay out quite well too(made a claim while i was with them about 10 years ago) Always worth checking the cashback sites,you just never know,there's always a cracking deal to be had.
Tunnel
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