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MSE News: EDF still worst for energy complaints

"EDF Energy tops the list of the most complained about energy suppliers, figures from Consumer Focus show..."
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  • backfoot
    backfoot Posts: 2,700 Forumite
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    These alarming figures are only part of the story. There are also all those complaints which get resolved or get left unresolved without reaching the Regulatory Organisations.

    From personal experience, EDF have issued me with three bills since joining them around 11 months ago. Initially they failed to set up a Direct Debit for gas for three months. No explanation or reason could be offered and they made a goodwill payment.

    The bill was presented incorrectly and confusingly in separating out just one days consumption ! Why? No explanation could be offered. Despite being on Direct Debit they decided to take the debit balance on the account ! Another goodwill payment,thank you.

    Then out of the blue, they changed the DD amount but failed to explain why. Even after further written requests,they failed to respond positively and then obstructed the process by claiming a bogus legal defence and presented it as a deadlock position. What started as a simple information request from a customer has turned into a costly formal complaint. Not only that, but against the background of already being fined,there is an ongoing Ofgem investigation into the adequacy of their complaint handling processes. It's not looking good :eek:

    I believe their new system implementation has gone so horrendously wrong that they are in complete chaos. The system has simply not been 'fit for purpose' and there is only limited evidence that matters are improving.

    I am sure the back office is completely overwhelmed but choosing the line of maximum resistance to simple data requests, implies to me, that they have got something to hide.

    I have absolutely no sympathy because they have made their own strategic and operational errors.

    Sad times for a once great Industry.
  • Terrylw1
    Terrylw1 Posts: 7,038 Forumite
    Snore, the industry complaint figures showing the OE cases.

    Tip of the iceberg stuff.

    You can't really judge the complaints based on this since anyone reaching deadlock will get resource thrown at them...it matters more to me that your complaint didn't get much resource in the previous complaint stages.

    The only way to judge complaints is statistics if them all plus resolution times/averages based on groups of similar complaints.

    Anything less is a "for the sake of it" statistic.
    :rotfl: It's better to live 1 year as a tiger than a lifetime as a worm...but then, whoever heard of a wormskin rug!!!:rotfl:
  • backfoot
    backfoot Posts: 2,700 Forumite
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    Terrylw1 wrote: »
    Snore, the industry complaint figures showing the OE cases.

    The article does say the source is ;

    'The firms are ranked on the number of complaints to Consumer Direct, Consumer Focus and the Energy Ombudsman.'

    So while agreeing that it is the tip of the iceberg,it isn't just those reaching deadlock and the EO.

    What it does show is that EDF continue to make little progress and customers can expect pitiful service. My own evidence is that the most basic of billing and collection processes are flawed and that the Customer Service is slow and eventually obstructive.
  • stagey_2
    stagey_2 Posts: 201 Forumite
    hmm -my current EON contract ends back end of August and EDF coming out best via uswitch and others - was thinking of moving to them. Perhaps not!
  • themull1
    themull1 Posts: 4,299 Forumite
    After rubbish service from British Gas and scottish power, i think EDF are by far the best provider i've had.
  • Poppy64
    Poppy64 Posts: 7 Forumite
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    I had to have EDF as my energy provider when I lived in France - no choice, and they were rubbish there as well! They were so inefficient that I swore I would never have them as my energy provider, no matter how cheap they were.
  • Terrylw1
    Terrylw1 Posts: 7,038 Forumite
    backfoot wrote: »
    The article does say the source is ;

    'The firms are ranked on the number of complaints to Consumer Direct, Consumer Focus and the Energy Ombudsman.'

    So while agreeing that it is the tip of the iceberg,it isn't just those reaching deadlock and the EO.

    What it does show is that EDF continue to make little progress and customers can expect pitiful service. My own evidence is that the most basic of billing and collection processes are flawed and that the Customer Service is slow and eventually obstructive.

    The suppliers can manipulate anything reaching deadlock but ignoring complaints upstream...it happens, plus there was that whistleblower telling the media what goes on, shame it didn't work for EDF!

    I think all suppliers should be at a minimum forced to submit the volumes of complaints.

    Its also important to look at the %'s in some of the industry reports since not long ago one supplier improved with a % close to Bgas which was seen as a triumph...but Bgas had a customer base three times larger so the % comparison was pretty meaningless.
    :rotfl: It's better to live 1 year as a tiger than a lifetime as a worm...but then, whoever heard of a wormskin rug!!!:rotfl:
  • dogshome
    dogshome Posts: 3,878 Forumite
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    I just don't believe it - Bitten on the bum by EDF

    Regulars will recognise my Post Name and know that I've constantly advised people with EDF billing problems to use the Online Service and only enter meter reads at Qtly billing dates - and never at any other time

    The reason for this is that apart from my own Elec. supply, I monitor the bills for 3 other households, all of whom are with EDF and no problems have occured by sticking to the Meter read/Qtly only regime

    Until that is I entered by own read 3 days ago
    Downloaded the bills to see a Notice that my D/D will be raised by 26% as of August.
    This is for an account that is showing a Credit on the bill, and has been in credit on every bill for over last 12 months - It gets better - EDF's own forecast to justify the D/D increase shows an Annual consumption figure that is less than that of the past 12 months.

    Go to Online Account page, write Email headed Complaint rejecting D/D increase quoting reasons why - Press submit - Up comes page telling me they cannot recieve mail due to technical problems

    Wait 16 minutes in phone queque to talk to Customer Services, but because I think the people manning these phones have the worst job in the world I am very, very polite, but having pointed out the problems written in B/W on their own bills, I still get garbage talk about building up credit for next Winters billing

    It takes some time with me asking the staff member to work through the billing line-by-line, before she agrees the Original D/D is correct and is altering the demand programme - All this EFD are supposed to confirm by letter, WE SHALL SEE
  • kreativ
    kreativ Posts: 30 Forumite
    Npower has ended their famous Go Fix 6 tariff and I have no choice but to switch to their costlier tariff or switch.
    EDF is the cheapest I can see but after reading the article and the above experiences, I seriously have doubts on whether cheapest will be the best.
    Service is so important. Npower customer service has been by far one of the best ones in my experience.
    So confused whether I should go for lower cost or better service!

    Gia.
    :A at work!
  • jalexa
    jalexa Posts: 3,448 Forumite
    giarora wrote: »
    Npower has ended their famous Go Fix 6 tariff and I have no choice but to switch to their costlier tariff or switch.
    EDF is the cheapest I can see but after reading the article and the above experiences, I seriously have doubts on whether cheapest will be the best.

    There is not much to choose on cost between the current Scottish Power and Edf fixed rate offers.

    One think I would bring to your attention is a recent thread where the Scottish Power rep has posted that any required Direct Debit recalculations are done on a rolling 12 months basis. That is a tariff feature which significantly reduces the risk of "sudden excessive hike" which is a huge risk with any supplier (e.g. Edf and others) who perform "short-year" calculations.
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