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    • YoungBusinessman
    • By YoungBusinessman 1st May 12, 11:22 PM
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    Setting up limited company advice
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    • 1st May 12, 11:22 PM
    Setting up limited company advice 1st May 12 at 11:22 PM
    Registered as sole trader, looking into setting up as limited company. Give me all the advice,tips,things to watch out for that use can please.
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    • Pennywise
    • By Pennywise 2nd May 12, 9:07 AM
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    • 2nd May 12, 9:07 AM
    This comes up very often on these and other forums. Search back a few pages and you'll find a few discussions. The best and most comprehensive forum thread is over on the UK business forums:-

    http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=60813

    The "official" information is on business link's website:-

    http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/bdotg/action/layer?topicId=1073865436

    Once you've had a look at these links and previous threads, most of your questions will be answered and you'll have a far better idea of the pros and cons. Come back with specific queries and I'm sure someone will help you.
    • PlutoinCapricorn
    • By PlutoinCapricorn 2nd May 12, 9:13 AM
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    • 2nd May 12, 9:13 AM
    Setting up a limited company
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    • 2nd May 12, 9:13 AM
    Why are you thinking of setting up a company? Is it because of high income? What sort of work is this for?

    I am a sole trader, and would only have a company as a last resort.
    Anyone can get a lot of information about you and your affairs online if you have a company; the accounting effort is much greater; you need a separate bank account whereas sole traders who are consultants trading under their own names can use their personal bank accounts.
    Who having known the diamond will concern himself with glass?

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    • Suarez
    • By Suarez 2nd May 12, 9:28 AM
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    • 2nd May 12, 9:28 AM
    Someone posted a figures comparison a while ago :

    Sole Trader vs Limited

    It was quite helpful and showed what you would have to pay.
  • SteProud
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    • 2nd May 12, 9:31 AM
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    • 2nd May 12, 9:31 AM
    Have a chat to an accountant. There are specialist accountants out there who will set up the limited company for you as part of a regular monthly fee.

    What sort of work will you be doing?
    Last edited by SteProud; 02-05-2012 at 3:08 PM.
  • lcharm
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    • 2nd May 12, 11:24 AM
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    It only costs £18 to set up a ltd company directly with Companies House so don't pay an accountant to do it as I've done it and it's reasonably straightforward if you read their guidelines and give them a call.

    As to whether you should or shouldn't do it is dependent on your situation but here are a couple of tips

    When I search for any company online, especially online stores, I look for a statement saying Ltd Company registered in England and Wales and company number, it's just me but gives me the knowledge that they are operating as a proper business.

    If you're working as plumber, electrician etc... it's only really worth it if you're turnover and profits are high and you can get a tax benefit. from taking your income as a dividend payment, an accountant can explain this better to you.

    Even if you do operate as a sole trader it's best to keep seperate bank accounts for personal and business to differentiate because expensive mistakes on tax returns could happen otherwise.
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    • paddyrg
    • By paddyrg 2nd May 12, 2:55 PM
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    It only costs £18 to set up a ltd company directly with Companies House so don't pay an accountant to do it as I've done it and it's reasonably straightforward if you read their guidelines and give them a call.
    Originally posted by lcharm
    Do not forget though that being a director of a limited company carries responsibilities, and the annual tax returns for your ltd company are a significant cost.
    • HappyMJ
    • By HappyMJ 2nd May 12, 2:59 PM
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    Do not forget though that being a director of a limited company carries responsibilities, and the annual tax returns for your ltd company are a significant cost.
    Originally posted by paddyrg
    What cost? I spend an hour each year filling in the numbers online and clicking submit. The PAYE returns take just as long once a month and the VAT returns hardly take any time at all.

    Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S) Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money.
    • YoungBusinessman
    • By YoungBusinessman 3rd May 12, 8:14 PM
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    Cheers guys. Will be waiting until iv got a mortgage in place and in my own house with savings behind me then i will reassess and most likely set up. Its for high income and being paid dividends. Can i set up as a limited company and only put through earnings from outside a regular job,where i am paid net wages,not gross.
  • dixie dean
    What cost? I spend an hour each year filling in the numbers online and clicking submit. The PAYE returns take just as long once a month and the VAT returns hardly take any time at all.
    Originally posted by HappyMJ
    So you file your accounts with company house and HMRC yourself and you find it very easy? I've been looking into it and it seems a minefield (dont want to pay an accountant as first year accounts very limited and profit very small).

    To the OP, I would definiotely say don't be a limited company unless you have to as as others have said, it's far simpler.
    And if, you know, your history...
    • Pennywise
    • By Pennywise 11th May 12, 2:04 PM
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    What cost? I spend an hour each year filling in the numbers online and clicking submit. The PAYE returns take just as long once a month and the VAT returns hardly take any time at all.
    Originally posted by HappyMJ
    So you've mastered annual accounts preparation in the format required by the Companies Act and know enough about Accounting Standards to get the accounts right do you? You've also mastered iXBRL for the submission of the full accounts to HMRC with the corporation tax return.

    PAYE and VAT "may be" easy for people with the right software and who know how to use it, but lots of people find it all very hard and are happy to pay for it all to be done by professionals. Just like ANY other job, such as servicing your own car, painting your own house, etc. Some people have the ability, patience and time to learn it, others don't.
    • LittleVoice
    • By LittleVoice 13th May 12, 11:19 PM
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    Cheers guys. Will be waiting until iv got a mortgage in place and in my own house with savings behind me then i will reassess and most likely set up. Its for high income and being paid dividends. Can i set up as a limited company and only put through earnings from outside a regular job,where i am paid net wages,not gross.
    Originally posted by YoungBusinessman
    A private limited company that you incorporated and of which you were a sole director is still completely distinct from you.

    Your earnings from a regular job - one where an employer (not the private limited company) pays you a wage/salary and deducts tax and NI - would not go through the company. What goes through the company is what is earned by the company - though that can be selling your services for which it invoices clients.
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