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    MSE Martin
    MSE's 2011 Petrol/Diesel Cost Diet Challenge: Put your money where your pedal is!
    • #1
    • 24th Dec 10, 10:01 PM
    MSE's 2011 Petrol/Diesel Cost Diet Challenge: Put your money where your pedal is! 24th Dec 10 at 10:01 PM
    The Petrol / Diesel Diet!
    Join together to slash 100s off your petrol bill?


    What it's all about

    Petrol prices are prohibitive, yet there are ways to cut the cost. The power of this forum has seen people work together to get debt free, pay off mortgages, save more, deal with dodgy builders and more, so now we want to tackle cutting petrol costs.

    What to do

    Tell us about your car, your journey and what you're going to do to save. Use the forum as a place to diarise your costs and techniques to cut the cost. Read what others say and share tips.

    Feel free to add this slogan to your signature...


    Official Petrol Dieter

    MSE's tips as a wee starter
    • Step 1: Make your car more efficient. Pumping up tyres, getting rid of extra junk, turning off unnecessary aircon and detaching empty roof racks combined can save you 15%. See full car efficiency checklist.
    • Step 2: Drive more smoothly. This is the BIG saving, accelerate and brake gently and you can get 20-30% more miles per tank. See full smooth driving guide
    • Step 3: Find a target price. Find the cheapest petrol station in your area. See petrolprices.com for current prices and cheap fuel finding section of the MSE guide for more tips.
    Yet that's just the beginning


    Now let the diet commence

    PS. I've been doing this too for a while, here are my efforts...

    How much further can you go on a tank?
    20% petrol efficiency improvement - while getting engaged!
    Last edited by Former MSE Dan; 11-01-2011 at 7:29 PM.
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  • Floflo
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    • 12th Jan 11, 10:32 AM
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    • 12th Jan 11, 10:32 AM
    The best, and fool proof way to cut petrol costs is to drive less!

    Replace a 6 mile commute with a half hour bike ride and you'll save 20 a week on fuel alone. Six miles on a bike can take half an hour - often quicker than sitting in traffic every day!

    Get a set of decent panniers and say good bye to the weekly shop. Get supplies from your local town or from near to where you work as and when you need it.

    Or if you need to use a train as part of a daily commute cycle to the station, this can save you hundreds of pounds a month in expensive rail car parking.

    A daily commute by bike gives you all the exercise you need to be healthy so you can also get rid of you gym subscription.

    If you can get rid of the overhead of owning and running a car although that's thousands of pounds saved. Without a car to run train fares start to be become affordable! Even take your bike on the train and save bus / taxi / parking at either end of the journey.
  • jeanlyon
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    • 12th Jan 11, 11:19 AM
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    • 12th Jan 11, 11:19 AM
    We have a 1.9 TDI Skoda. So it's diesel. I am managing just over 50 to the gallon on short runs, simply by driving better. I hardly use the brake at all, just take my foot off to slow down and then accelerate slowly. Haven't filled the car for weeks!

    We live in a rural area, so cannot use transport to get to work and it's 12 miles. However, I do use my free bus pass to get to the nearest city.
  • runninglea
    • #4
    • 12th Jan 11, 11:40 AM
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    • 12th Jan 11, 11:40 AM
    hI - up to October was cycling to work two days a week, 14 miles each way. Got it down to about 40 minutes each way

    It is a very dark windy road so a bit reluctant to do it at present, however every morning a see the same cyclist as I am driving so need to get a bit braver.

    Other three days I work less than 1 mile so walk
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  • daveyjp
    • #5
    • 12th Jan 11, 11:49 AM
    • #5
    • 12th Jan 11, 11:49 AM
    Compared to the fixed costs of tax, insurance, maintenance and depreciation fuel is a very small component of car ownership - I'll continue to use my car what it is for - getting me from A to B.
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  • ani 26
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    • 12th Jan 11, 11:50 AM
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    • 12th Jan 11, 11:50 AM
    I'm constantly on the look out for money saving tips to keep my car on the road.

    I bought petrol on monday for 123p a litre, plus shell points, ( thats unleaded). Thats not 3 bad, anyone found petrol cheaper?
    Last edited by ani 26; 12-01-2011 at 11:53 AM.
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  • ani 26
    • #7
    • 12th Jan 11, 11:52 AM
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    • 12th Jan 11, 11:52 AM
    Compared to the fixed costs of tax, insurance, maintenance and depreciation fuel is a very small component of car ownership - I'll continue to use my car what it is for - getting me from A to B.
    Originally posted by daveyjp


    Unfortunately not , for me. My car drinks fuel, around 20 - 23 mpg.. The everday cost of fuel, really hurts...............................
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  • motorguy
    • #8
    • 12th Jan 11, 12:00 PM
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    • 12th Jan 11, 12:00 PM
    Compared to the fixed costs of tax, insurance, maintenance and depreciation fuel is a very small component of car ownership - I'll continue to use my car what it is for - getting me from A to B.
    Originally posted by daveyjp
    +1

    The amount of people who will spend thousands changing their petrol car to a diesel then lose those thousands again in depreciation....
    Regards

    Paul
  • Scotty1.7
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    • 12th Jan 11, 12:43 PM
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    • 12th Jan 11, 12:43 PM
    Petrol proces need to be regulated, Just like Car Insurance.

    For every 10 of furl you put in your car - The Goverment get 7-8!

    And do we have a fantistic road network to show for it? No
    Do we have any viable reliable alternatives? No

    Bus's- Cramped, Uncomfortable and over priced
    Train's- Were viable till the ticket prices went through the roof
    Cycling- Fine in good- reasonable weather, but I like to arrive in work Fresh, relaxed and calm, Not sweaty, smelly and annoyed- not to mention the health and safty impacts due to SOME poor bus drivers/motorists
    Walking- Very few people actually live within walking distance of there place of work.

    Most Parents do not need a car for the school run- Yet they still have.
    Soltoution- Impose a 2nd car tax. If you family has more then one car in it then you should be taxed on it- Irespective of what car it is.

    Insurance should be regulated to ensure that everyone gets a fair preimum- not based on someone sticking a finger in the air and saying that someone 10 miles away had a bump so its going to cost you this much. Rubbish- It is YOUR insurance, so it is YOUR driving past that should be looked at. YOU are not paying for Mr Smiths insurance. YOU are paying for YOUR insurance.

    Fuel price's should be capped ay 1 per litre- At the HIGHEST. The goverment still gets billions in Tax, The petrol companies still made lots of profit, the price of Oil still fluctuated- and this is going back not more then 8 years when it was less then 1

    More ACTION needs to be taken against the petrol companies/ Goverment on this. The British motorist has the worst road quality, the highest fuel cost, highest Insurance cost, Highest Road Tax of all of europe. Its disgussting behaviour.

    Just my view though
  • vikingaero
    Do we have any viable reliable alternatives? No
    Originally posted by Scotty1.7
    No one forces anyone to live in a rural area. You could make the choice to live in a town/city and not have the commuting problem.

    Most Parents do not need a car for the school run- Yet they still have.
    Soltoution- Impose a 2nd car tax. If you family has more then one car in it then you should be taxed on it- Irespective of what car it is.
    Who says that most parents don't need a second car? Most parents I know with 2 cars work and have a need to get children to school and then off to work. People with 2 cars already pay car tax, VAT, 1st registration tax, fuel duty, insurance premium tax etc etc. You want to charge them another tax on top? Quite simply the duty and VAT on fuel is one of the best mechanisms - you drive more you pay more.

    Insurance should be regulated to ensure that everyone gets a fair preimum- not based on someone sticking a finger in the air and saying that someone 10 miles away had a bump so its going to cost you this much. Rubbish- It is YOUR insurance, so it is YOUR driving past that should be looked at. YOU are not paying for Mr Smiths insurance. YOU are paying for YOUR insurance.
    And I don't want to pay for all the uninsured drivers on the road but I have to.

    Fuel price's should be capped ay 1 per litre- At the HIGHEST. The goverment still gets billions in Tax, The petrol companies still made lots of profit, the price of Oil still fluctuated- and this is going back not more then 8 years when it was less then 1
    So where do you propose the Govt make up the shortfall in taxation? 30% standard rate of income tax?

    More ACTION needs to be taken against the petrol companies/ Goverment on this. The British motorist has the worst road quality, the highest fuel cost, highest Insurance cost, Highest Road Tax of all of europe. Its disgussting behaviour.
    You've not seen unleaded prices in Germany, Netherlands or some Scandinavian countries then?
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  • Scotty1.7
    The option of moving into the town- would equal higher costs of living, thus negating the reason for moving. That is a double edged sorwd so a argument on that could run for many decades

    I've not seen the prices in europe, so apologies if that was wrong but going off what I have read regarding the people going across channel to fill up the last few eyars I took that to be the case.

    The Goverment can make up the differnce by stopping helping other nations out of there issues, cutting imergration, stopping benefits and getting those people who are to lazy to work, to work fixing the roads. Just so you all understand that is those who are not working when they should eb a claiming fraudulantly- Not those who are unable to work for any other reasons.

    I agree with the uninsured drivers comment- we shouldn't pay for them. It should be a instant 6 month custodial sentence, with a no good behaviour clause.

    I see your point with the 2nd car, but I don't agree that they need such large cars. Does a family with 1-2 children need a massive people carrier? Why have 1 massive car ( which lets be honest in most case, not all but most is taken by whoever goes early to work) and small one. 2 small cars Polo Bluemotion/Toyota IQ etc woudl suffice for those needs- And they are cheap to run and cheap to tax(Free in the case of the 2 examples given)
  • thriftymoo
    i think what martin maybe had in mind when he started this thread was for people to share tips on saving money on fuel. - not to start an arguement about taxation and how rubbish our road system may or may not be etc etc
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  • des077
    i'm thinking of getting a small motorcycle like a cub90 or a cg125 these will do in excess of 100mpg and they cost 15 a year road tax plus cut through traffic and brand new from 2000 or below but theres always second hand ones, but if your only doing short runs you could get an electric bike for about 500 with no tax or insurance costs and just pennies to charge.
  • kalamath
    We have two cars = one company car the other Big Heavey Shogun. Used for pulling trailers etc. Also when off road. So there is a local company selling BIO diesel - Duty paid and road ready - no conversion required. Produced from reclaimed waste oil (chip shops etc) The fact it is based on bio rather than mineral - the exhast gases are less harmful and polute less. Better lubrication and the engine runs quieter. Best bit 94p per litre. The fuel duty is a stealth tax and is now getting silly with the added 2.5% VAT. The government could abolish it if they wanted - however they are pointing the finger at labour and saying its all their fault. So sad - not what we need right now.

    Just my 2p worth - well 2p plus 2,5% extra vat !!!
  • spendaholic
    Petrol is one of the biggest issues for me at the moment. For an experiment I bought a bus and rail pass for 2 weeks, but it took me 90 minutes to get to work, 12 miles away, and 90 minutes to get back, and I only work 3.5 days per week. I decided it would be cheaper to stick with the car after all. If needs must, i.e. if the car fails or if the weather worsens again, at least I know I can get to work by public transport if necessary.

    So I'm looking for other ways to save and you'll see from my sig that my debt is gradually coming down - I entered into a paid-for FMP in June 2 years ago and it's the best thing I ever did (even the 20 the finance company get a month is worth it for the 200+ in interest and charges they're saving me). I think I've saved, and saved and saved where I can, and I freelance on top of my part time job to earn more where I can.

    I'd love a bike, but that would mean initial outlay for the bike and a shed to lock it up in, and I'd have to build my fitness gradually in order to manage the work commute, plus there are the road safety issues where there aren't designated cycle lanes.

    I have a Citroen Saxo Desire 1.1 that does about 30 to the gallon. The tank was costing me 30 to fill. Now it's costing me 45. This means my monthly budget for fuel has gone from about 40 to about 60+.

    I need to take some of the weight out of my boot and get some air into my tyres, and I only drive for journeys of 2 miles or more. I live in a semi-rural village, but will try and multi-task on journeys, such as get my shopping on the way home from work as I pass the supermarket anyway.

    I think this is a great challenge. Good luck!
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  • SixSpeed
    Just started a new job and my commute has increased from 28 miles to 98 miles per day so the challenge is definitely on !

    I've been using petrolprices.com for the last few years and planning fill ups around best prices. This has worked well - saving on average 2 to 3p per litre. I'm not sure how this will work out with my increased mileage which will be mostly on main roads and Motorway. I

    have been getting 35 mpg from my 3 litre diesel so should be a good measure to see if I can make any savings.
    (Before anyone suggests it: I can't afford to change the car yet!)

    I'm going to try all the suggested methods to save fuel and see what I can save - best of luck to all who try.
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  • malkypaul
    Hi All

    I had a 3.9 Disco Horrendous 17ishGPM, until it got nicked, (many thanks to the teeleaf), i got a tax exempt (pre1972) Landrover series 2a with a V8 for all my towing jobs, and as a daily commuter a nissan micra and to save even more money/tax i converted to LPG which gives half the pence per miles, best thing i ever did.

    If you are really serious about saving money and the environment Gasify, you could always visit the Centre for Alternative technology as well at Machllyenth in Wales.

    Many Thanks

    Malkypaul
  • geordie_ben
    I've got a 1.9 TDI Golf, X reg, currently getting about 45mpg.. the typical price around here for diesel seems to be 130.9 a litre

    I need to blow my tyres up
    Stop the erratic driving
    and looking into Bio-Fuel..
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  • hubert cumberdale
    i run an old petrol car that gets about 40 - 45mpg

    run it as light as possible seems to be my only thing and the tire pressures

    just getting round to fitting my hydrogen generator to it to see if they do actually work hope i dont explode - im not sure if they do work but it will be a fun experiment.
  • malkypaul
    Hi All

    To all you people thinking of useing this Biofuel it has to be mixed 50:50 with Diesel or it will ruin your engine. Mineral Diesel is a lubricant, Biofuel isn't!!!

    Not much of a saving when you have to replace your engine.

    Malkypaul on LPG
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